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Alphafloor 03-08-2017 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jltcraft (Post 2316688)
I'm the first officer receiving this award.
please fact check a little before making possible damaging comments fellow airmen.
First: I'm receiving an award for playing my ukulele for pax during a gate delay. We should always take care of our pax. This has nothing to do with company or union issues.
Second: the dues I owe amount to $60 and are from a previous airline. The situation is a misunderstanding and is being rectified. I have paid 100% of my spirit union dues!
So again fact check before you start your rants boys.

Your brother and sister pilots would really appreciate it if you insists on wearing your green lanyard during the photos they are going to take,.... It would do wonders to improve your credibility. Things are really starting to heat up around here and if you don't wear that lanyard everybody is gonna think you're a worthless turd. You apparently agreed to accept the award. You've made you're own bed son, Now you get to lay in it.

ovrtake92 03-08-2017 06:46 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that those who don't wear the lanyard will cross the picket line when the time comes. It's a mindset that few of us will ever understand. When I see the company lanyard I see a future SCAB. To be honest I'll be glad when don't have to wear the hideous things someday but for now I proudly support what it stands for and that's unity. You won't see these turds passing up the pay raise when it comes their way.

Plane Ramrod 03-08-2017 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by ovrtake92 (Post 2316891)
There is no doubt in my mind that those who don't wear the lanyard will cross the picket line when the time comes. It's a mindset that few of us will ever understand. When I see the company lanyard I see a future SCAB. To be honest I'll be glad when don't have to wear the hideous things someday but for now I proudly support what it stands for and that's unity. You won't see these turds passing up the pay raise when it comes their way.

Again, someone throwing SCAB around loosely. Nice Minority Report touch to this one.

Alphafloor 03-08-2017 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by ovrtake92 (Post 2316891)
There is no doubt in my mind that those who don't wear the lanyard will cross the picket line when the time comes. It's a mindset that few of us will ever understand. When I see the company lanyard I see a future SCAB. To be honest I'll be glad when don't have to wear the hideous things someday but for now I proudly support what it stands for and that's unity. You won't see these turds passing up the pay raise when it comes their way.

I'm not worried too much about SCABS crossing the line of we strike. We had ZERO guys cross in 2010 and I think somebody would have to be absolutely out of their friggin mind to try it. Considering some of the psychopaths we have flying jets here I would be afraid every time I started my car.

Plane Ramrod 03-08-2017 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by ovrtake92 (Post 2316891)
There is no doubt in my mind that those who don't wear the lanyard will cross the picket line when the time comes.

This is a complete BS statement. You should have at least started with "In my vast experience, I think that..."

ovrtake92 03-08-2017 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Alphafloor (Post 2316900)
I'm not worried too much about SCABS crossing the line of we strike. We had ZERO guys cross in 2010 and I think somebody would have to be absolutely out of their friggin mind to try it. Considering some of the psychopaths we have flying jets here I would be afraid every time I started my car.

Good point. Seems like a bad game plan to me but you never know

ovrtake92 03-08-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod (Post 2316903)
This is a complete BS statement. You should have at least started with "In my vast experience, I think that..."

Ok pretend I edited for you. Do you understand the context now?
Of course this is merely my opinion. I also think at this point in the negotiations it's not merely a passive act to not wear the lanyard but a statement to the contrary of what they stand for. Yeah it's total group think herd mentality which I normally abhor but that's sort of the whole point of a union I suppose. In my vast experience I think, anyway

Justmeagain 03-08-2017 07:37 PM

First of all, I seriously doubt that this guy got expelled over $60 owed from his days at Mesa. Even if you changed your address several times since then, your base would be known and you would be reachable through the ALPA mechanisms that exist here at Spirit. This one doesn't pass the smell test!

Secondly, given the state of Pilot-management relations that exist here presently, I think that it's poor taste for ET to accept (sorry ET, I know you deserve credit for your hard work, but seriously?). Maybe ALPA can arrange something to recognize his efforts. This is bad judgement on your part.

Both of these guys need to consider the optic and how management will hold you up as examples of good relations, while they stick to the group as a whole.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 03-08-2017 08:57 PM

Or, they could use this platform to make a statement in front of all the yuckety yucks as to how you are but a tiny sampling of the hardworking, professional pilot group here that deserves an industry standard contract. Throw it back in their face and watch them squirm.

Plane Ramrod 03-09-2017 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Justmeagain (Post 2316921)
First of all, I seriously doubt that this guy got expelled over $60 owed from his days at Mesa.

An investigation needs to be launched to find out who leaked this confidential information. Was national hacked? Did the membership guy click on a phishing link? Is it an old JA sympathizer buried deep in the organization? All our personal data is in there people... Wake up!


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