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OneEyedMonster 03-09-2017 03:59 AM

I would bet my low tier paycheck he brings his ukulele to the awards and plays it.

"Bendo, how did you get a pilot to play for us like a dancing monkey?"

"I gave him a ridiculous award, that has no value, and we got him a must ride ticket on Spirit to fly out"

Car Ramrod 03-09-2017 08:54 AM

Give the guy a break. If he is truly getting the award for breaking out his ukulele during a delay, then I'm not going to hate the guy. He didn't do it for recognition from the company. Perhaps in hindsight it was bad timing and he didn't think about the blowback it would cause. He was just trying to do something nice for people... not for our company. Am I a company man because I helped an old lady get her bag in/out of the overhead on a deadhead last week? At what point do you draw the line? I proudly wear my green lanyard and I will do whatever it takes to get a new contract but I will not stop being decent and kind to people. Hopefully he accepts the award in his green lanyard.

Edit: I don't think it would be smart to play your ukulele for those clowns either. Just accept your award, say thank you, and go home.

Qotsaautopilot 03-09-2017 09:13 AM

BS award or not it's something you can put in a resume and probably a story that would get you a job at an airline with a real contract. Yes wear the lanyard.

RalphWiggum 03-09-2017 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Car Ramrod (Post 2317264)
Give the guy a break. If he is truly getting the award for breaking out his ukulele during a delay, then I'm not going to hate the guy. He didn't do it for recognition from the company. Perhaps in hindsight it was bad timing and he didn't think about the blowback it would cause. He was just trying to do something nice for people... not for our company. Am I a company man because I helped an old lady get her bag in/out of the overhead on a deadhead last week? At what point do you draw the line? I proudly wear my green lanyard and I will do whatever it takes to get a new contract but I will not stop being decent and kind to people. Hopefully he accepts the award in his green lanyard.

Edit: I don't think it would be smart to play your ukulele for those clowns either. Just accept your award, say thank you, and go home.

It's nice he did a decent thing for the pax but he admitted he was expelled from ALPA for non payment issues. That doesn't happen by mistake and I don't think we should cut him slack for that or going to this joke of a company event to accept an award from a management group that despises us.

Outdoors 03-09-2017 10:08 AM

Infighting
 
Event was before green lanyards existed to put this in perspective, everyone was still talking summer quid...it was also referenced on a CEO Friday update. No one had a problem with it then.

Now you are attacking a fellow pilot you've likely never met for accepting a award.

Reminds me why I left spirit...and in case your wondering, a legacy is better, yes QOL too.

Management is likely getting a great laugh reading your highly emotional rants out loud to each other while buying drinks at the Bimini Bay Bar with your money!

paidpnuts 03-09-2017 10:23 AM

I feel these awards are nothing more than damage control. Attrition is high, morale is low. It's nothing more than smoke and mirrors and a failed attempt to try and recognize their employees that they despise. Here's an idea MGT., how about coming to negotiations with the intent of a contract that rewards everyone for their hard work and not a select few?! I stand by my NC, I wear my lanyard and they get out of me what they pay me. It's time to start carrying the torches and force their hand a bit! Enough is enough.

IWalkJun12 03-09-2017 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by paidpnuts (Post 2317318)
I feel these awards are nothing more than damage control. Attrition is high, morale is low. It's nothing more than smoke and mirrors and a failed attempt to try and recognize their employees that they despise. Here's an idea MGT., how about coming to negotiations with the intent of a contract that rewards everyone for their hard work and not a select few?! I stand by my NC, I wear my lanyard and they get out of me what they pay me. It's time to start carrying the torches and force their hand a bit! Enough is enough.


The time was two years ago like many of us have been doing. I'm not saying you haven't, for those that are still calling for fuel and paperwork. Shut your pie holes while the rest of us fight for a contract for you.

Car Ramrod 03-09-2017 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by RalphWiggum (Post 2317290)
It's nice he did a decent thing for the pax but he admitted he was expelled from ALPA for non payment issues. That doesn't happen by mistake and I don't think we should cut him slack for that or going to this joke of a company event to accept an award from a management group that despises us.

I don't have a problem with him accepting the award as long as he represents our union by wearing the lanyard. He needs to get paid up though. nobody should get cut slack for that.

Car Ramrod 03-09-2017 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Outdoors (Post 2317310)
Event was before green lanyards existed to put this in perspective, everyone was still talking summer quid...it was also referenced on a CEO Friday update. No one had a problem with it then.

Now you are attacking a fellow pilot you've likely never met for accepting a award.

Reminds me why I left spirit...and in case your wondering, a legacy is better, yes QOL too.

Management is likely getting a great laugh reading your highly emotional rants out loud to each other while buying drinks at the Bimini Bay Bar with your money!

Yeah you may be right. But you and I both know we have an overall great group of professional pilots here. This forum, while entertaining, is not a good representation of who we really are collectively.

ovrtake92 03-09-2017 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Car Ramrod (Post 2317345)
Yeah you may be right. But you and I both know we have an overall great group of professional pilots here. This forum, while entertaining, is not a good representation of who we really are collectively.

Exactly. This forum is a sounding board for frustrations that for most of us only consume a fraction of our day. A blow off valve if you will. It's mostly BS but it's entertaining.


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