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How much Bofo Bendo and Jyri love you

Yes, and BoFo makes 1 million more than Gary Kelly, while SWA pilots make up to $100 more an hour than some longevities of ours!!

So.....why do we need to dump on our passengers too?

Agreed, they don't deserve it anymore than we do.

Don't forget profit sharing.

Unfortunately passengers will be collateral damage. Unfortunate but this is the course management has determined they wanted.

Cancelations for no crew, deplaning because the pilots timed out and refuse to extend, flights going out late because the transportation didnt show at the hotel and the pilots wont get their own cab, maintenance delays and cancelations when items are found on the preflight walkaround, hot brakes on the taxi out and having to wait 30 minutes to take off....etc.

Passengers get caught up and upset with all of this. Angry passengers speak with their wallets and management only cares about their wallet.

The good news is every plane should be nice and cool this summer for all that sweet cold APU air blowing 45 minutes before boarding.

No doubt, you guys are underpaid!

On the positive side, Spirit has never had to beat up a guy, dragging him out of a "pre-reclined for your comfort seat!" Perhaps the opposite has occurred and we haven't heard about it?

In ops and everything forward of the flight deck door, I have nothing but respect for the Spirit team. In the main cabin, well ... you get what you pay for.

As an outsider who's had quite a few colleagues cycle through Spirit, I have never expected you all to get compensation to the level that would be on par with industry standard. But you deserve way more. Keep up the good fight!

Speaking of Southwest...... Why aren't they on the pay-comparison chart?

My guess is because all the other carriers listed operate the A320.

I didnt see Frontier either.

Out of curiosity, why would you expect us to be paid less than industry standard?

I'd like to know as well actually. Intrigued mainly. Hope to see him on our picket line.

I would guess that one would assume the cashier at Walmart probably doesn't make as much as the cashier at Macy's even though the machine they operate is the same. Just a guess

I work at ORD DFW LAX LGA with the same cash register as those being compensated twice as much as me. My cash register has a different paint job and generates a LOT more profit per seat mile as well.

Comparing professionals to cashiers is apples to tampons.

Don't fortget that it's not management that pays the bills it's our customers. They stop buying tickets and it won't matter what a contract says.

Recently dock workers at a West Coast port went on strike, after a week the largest customer, Hanjin, pulled their shipping from the port and moved it to a port with more stable labor. That customer comprised 70% of all shipping at the dock. It immediately ended the strike because their were no longer any jobs to strike for and all the workers were layed off.

Personally while I am out on the line I will continue to provide the best customer service I can. I am not going to lower my personal standards of a professional pilot.

So, you one of the guys that carries write ups until you get to a Mx base so you don't inconvenience the customer?

Sorry to bring it up but a lot of those pay scales are outdated and in fact much higher.

Allegiant CA pay is now around $8-9/hr higher than that chart.

And a few months later Hanjin went bankrupt. Not chapter 11, they dissolved, kaput. So the longshoreman would have lost out either way in Portland.

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I think delta and American have changed since as well. We should get a fresh and new comparison soon.

If anyone doesn't have the 86 page United contract comparison guide they put out a few weeks ago I suggest you get a copy and enlighten yourself and anyone you come in contact with.

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Frontier I think is still in bankruptcy rates as they are currently trying to negotiate a new contract


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Absolutely not! I operate strickly legally and safely. This is aviation, delays are going to happen but I am not going to go out of my way to ensure they occur (like purposely heating up the brakes).

I care about our customers and I want to give them the best experience I can.

Maybe, my point is Spirit will still need customers after the new contract so don't burn the place down in the process.

Take the brakes, for example.

Am I going to mash them down, add power, to get them to overheat. No

Am I going to care about the temps anymore this summer, because I taxi on 2 engines, LAS is hot, and the taxi to 25R is downhill..Nope

These cheap fools didnt want to get brake fans, the spent their money on videos staring Johno and throwing parties for ukulele playing fools. So because of that, if they are at 300 degrees, so be it. Ill wait it out in the pad and get paid in the process. Oh, thats right....the company snagged our block of better per leg, so now I need to fly slow on the next leg to not lose any money.

And in the end, the passenger gets the punishment of the longer flight and maybe a misconnect because of waiting on brakes to cool down.

Suck for them, but like I have said before, this is the game Management wants. Anyone still enabling them by calling for paperwork, picking up trips, Standing Avail list, letting the plane roll to 40 kts before applying brakes, is just enabling this company and their actions.

Retaining customers should be the furthest thing from this pilot group's mind right now. This is not our problem. Once we have a respectful contract I will go back to caring about the product.

I agree with you 99% but in regards to the passengers they are still a top priority for me. Once a new contract is reached the pilot group will need the customers to be buying tickets to pay salaries.

So are you going to cross the picket line when we strike just because you care about the passengers? Just stop, maybe we'll get a contract without striking.

Multiple delays in the system today. Delayed several hours because of no crews, specifically pilots.👍

I believe, we will all do our best in not delivering hot brakes during swaps.
However you will not hear any complaints from me, if I walk into a hot brakes AC. ;)
Now if the APU is off, and it's hot, that's a different story. :mad:
This summer let's take good care of our valued customers and each other, by delivering nicely cooled AC.
Personally, my optimal temp is 68-70F.

Thanks in advance. :)

You won't see a TA here until industry standard is negotiated...

There's a DTW CA on reserve today with 140 hours of credit! High five my union brother!

Maybe Inspector Small Hands will investigate the perp's v-file and post the gravy sheet, like he did last week.

Glad to know he is a team player while I sit and don't answer my phone and refuse to help them.
Don't worry brother, you can thank the rest of us that had the fortitude to stand together.
Enjoy your gravy. Wish I could fly with you on a Lima so I could educate you for 6 hours.

Same guy that *****d himself out to the tune of 218+ hours in March.

Go see the DTW Cart on Res that pulled 212 for the month. Way to go!

Guys, directly from the MEC chair. File NCC's for r/g days plus iot/dot delay.

It is sad really that pilots are getting web board shamed for high credit hours. You don't know thier situation and you don't have a right to know. It is sad that you think not picking up JAs will make the company come begging for a deal. (It won't). The theory make sense but in practicality doesn't work. All we are doing is raising blood pressures and little Suzy doesn't get to go to disney world. Will a judge look upon us not picking up anything favorably? Probably will hinder the process.

Said Your Mom!!
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