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Planepirate 06-02-2017 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2373094)
How does this happen? I assume we'd have to put it up for a vote and these guys aren't going to let that happen easily. Do you know the bylaws?

This could have some legs. I am also tired of the endless capitulation.

Hmm. Second quote ever and talking about undermining the union. Nice try troll

Av viii 06-02-2017 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2373173)
Hmm. Second quote ever and talking about undermining the union. Nice try troll

Not trying to troll. Nor do I want to de-unify the group. I just am tired of the lackluster performance.

Ed Force One 06-02-2017 05:21 PM

wow

filler

Lemonade 06-05-2017 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2371593)
Care to elaborate? Based on what? Looks like the division tactics the company has undertaken has worked on you. Have you called your rep? Am I responding to a management troll right now? Lol

Based on their total failure to accomplish anything during a time when other groups are being handed raises. HANDED raises. Our Reps should step down. Let somebody else give it a shot. Thats why.

Im thinking that I am talking to a management troll. Bendo loves our guys, what does that say about you?

DFWLECNOW 06-05-2017 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2374514)
Based on their total failure to accomplish anything during a time when other groups are being handed raises. HANDED raises. Our Reps should step down. Let somebody else give it a shot. Thats why.

Im thinking that I am talking to a management troll. Bendo loves our guys, what does that say about you?

I'm hearing some changes to our ALPA leadership could be forthcoming. Some will be due to the natural timing of elections and some due to recall.

Qotsaautopilot 06-05-2017 01:10 PM

Nothing like good ole infighting is going to get us a RATIFIABLE contract soon.

Em I right?

Bendo Bob and Jyri laugh

VFA201 06-05-2017 04:05 PM

The company is doing what is best for the company,
The union is doing what is best for the union,
We will do what is best for the pilots and get the best contract possible anyway we can.

Qotsaautopilot 06-05-2017 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by VFA201 (Post 2374755)
The company is doing what is best for the company,
The union is doing what is best for the union,
We will do what is best for the pilots and get the best contract possible anyway we can.

Who's we? I thought we were the union.

VFA201 06-05-2017 05:35 PM

i changed it from "you" to "we" so everyone would think i am a Spirit pilot.
Justice delayed is justice denied" is a legal maxim meaning that if legal redress is available for a party that has suffered some injury, but is not forthcoming in a timely fashion, it is effectively the same as having no redress at all.

Planepirate 06-05-2017 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Lemonade (Post 2374514)
Based on their total failure to accomplish anything during a time when other groups are being handed raises. HANDED raises. Our Reps should step down. Let somebody else give it a shot. Thats why.

Im thinking that I am talking to a management troll. Bendo loves our guys, what does that say about you?

Lol
This is the first time I've heard Bendo "loves our guys". I honestly don't think it is in the best interest of the pilot group to head down the path you are suggesting, even if you think they are doing a crappy job. They haven't told me enough info (nda's) to make a conclusion about how good/bad they are doing. Am I frustrated about the time it has taken to get this far? I'm actually pretty level headed but I'm getting more and more angry every day. Our management is playing the stall game...It is obvious. Cooler heads will prevail my friend.


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