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AllOva736 07-19-2017 03:14 AM

This crap needs to stop
 
Am I the only person who is really ****ed about 45 + minute van rides to the airport and hotel because our stupid hotel committee sets us up in hotels that are 40 miles away. We're crew members on an overnight..... put us in the same damn state as the airport when we have a 5:30 show time. Hell at least give us the option of the short stay. FFS people if this ****es you off too , email your rep and tell them it's BS.

Chimpy 07-19-2017 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2396593)
Am I the only person who is really ****ed about 45 + minute van rides to the airport and hotel because our stupid hotel committee sets us up in hotels that are 40 miles away. We're crew members on an overnight..... put us in the same damn state as the airport when we have a 5:30 show time. Hell at least give us the option of the short stay. FFS people if this ****es you off too , email your rep and tell them it's BS.

Weve been negotiating for 3 years and have a CEO that refers to us as Low Tier, We got bigger problems than 45 min van rides, lol

Macjet 07-19-2017 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2396593)
Am I the only person who is really ****ed about 45 + minute van rides to the airport and hotel because our stupid hotel committee sets us up in hotels that are 40 miles away. We're crew members on an overnight..... put us in the same damn state as the airport when we have a 5:30 show time. Hell at least give us the option of the short stay. FFS people if this ****es you off too , email your rep and tell them it's BS.

I agree and have emailed the Hotel Committee numerous times. DTW is a tough market and finding a good place is hard but I'd much rather stay at our short stay than drive all the way out to Livonia. IAH and LAX there are no excuses. There's no reason we can't stay closer. It would be great if we could choose to stay at the short versus long. IAH is a sh!+ show eight ways to Sunday. Late vans, no vans, lying van drivers, long drive, bad traffic, etc. I bid around that city like the plague.

Unfortunatley a lot of our reps are in self preservation mode and not better the group mode. We have a few good ones but my experience in the aggregate has not been positive. And don't dare address a contract violation unless you want to be mocked and labeled a 'trouble maker'. But hey, at least we're paying $7 a beer in LAX while WN pays $1.

Directautogroup 07-19-2017 07:42 AM

Hotel commitee has the same problem as the scheduling commitee. The guy in charge has been in his position for far too long.

pilot0987 07-19-2017 08:04 AM

Would probably be helpful if u posted the city in which the van ride took forever. Also wouldn't this be more appropriate for your company talk board, meaning you would reach a more effective base with your fellow workers. Just a thought

AllOva736 07-19-2017 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by pilot0987 (Post 2396730)
Would probably be helpful if u posted the city in which the van ride took forever. Also wouldn't this be more appropriate for your company talk board, meaning you would reach a more effective base with your fellow workers. Just a thought

You must not work here. Anyone at Spirit knows what hotels I'm talking about so that point really doesn't stand but I'll do it anyways. LAX IAH DTW PIT DEN and the list goes on. I'm not sure if you noticed but I posted this in the SPIRIT sub forum..... what are you talking about dude? Are you lost?

pilot0987 07-19-2017 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2396733)
You must not work here. Anyone at Spirit knows what hotels I'm talking about so that point really doesn't stand. I'm not sure if you noticed but I posted this in the SPIRIT sub forum..... what are you talking about dude? Are you lost?

Not lost. Obviously you have understood what I said since you have choosen to respond.Yes it would be helpful for people to know exactly where you were staying as it takes the guess work out in addressing the problem with overnights and long van rides.

dn_wisconsin 07-19-2017 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2396646)
I agree and have emailed the Hotel Committee numerous times. DTW is a tough market and finding a good place is hard but I'd much rather stay at our short stay than drive all the way out to Livonia. IAH and LAX there are no excuses. There's no reason we can't stay closer. It would be great if we could choose to stay at the short versus long. IAH is a sh!+ show eight ways to Sunday. Late vans, no vans, lying van drivers, long drive, bad traffic, etc. I bid around that city like the plague.

Unfortunatley a lot of our reps are in self preservation mode and not better the group mode. We have a few good ones but my experience in the aggregate has not been positive. And don't dare address a contract violation unless you want to be mocked and labeled a 'trouble maker'. But hey, at least we're paying $7 a beer in LAX while WN pays $1.

I'm probably the exception but LAX is my favorite overnight. Ya, the van during rush hour sucks but when I have 22 hours it doesn't really bug me. Where does WN pay a $1 in LAX? You know the 1,2,3 rule stopped years ago?

beech_nut 07-19-2017 11:19 AM

You aren't the exception. I like having something to do if I am stuck someplace for a long overnight. I really hope we don't change the LAX, IAH, or DFW longs. I don't mind the van ride either as long as we don't have a really early report the next day. Perhaps they could be changed on longs only if the report time in the AM is before say 8 or 9 AM.

AllOva736 07-19-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 2396824)
You aren't the exception. I like having something to do if I am stuck someplace for a long overnight. I really hope we don't change the LAX, IAH, or DFW longs. I don't mind the van ride either as long as we don't have a really early report the next day. Perhaps they could be changed on longs only if the report time in the AM is before say 8 or 9 AM.

I think they should just allow you to choose the short stay as long as you request it say 48-72 hours in advance. Everyone wins


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