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I’m amazed it took three years to get this. Now where is that ready to strike lanyard
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I'll be wearing mine for the foreseeable future.
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Some issues to consider besides the many valid points floating around this site and others. Keep finding and posting the shortfalls and hidden “gems” like the one at the bottom I saw online?
1) 70% short of full retro (in the example I used) 2) vacation – explain the way vacation drops work with 2 days on each side? 3) Lower pay compared to ALL airlines in same category that have received new contracts (Jet Blue and Frontier excluded because they are in negotiations). 4) PBS blows and you have no idea what you will get even if you are a senior guy. 5) 5 hours per day Trip average – Not 5 hours per day 6) Long stay changing from 14 hours to 18 hours – puts us in worse hotels 7) Five year contract vs a four year contract. No extension, raises or a guarantee of raises or retro pay. 8) Hotel buyback is at company discretion. Does this mean they can take it away at their discretion? 9) Company can reassign at any time? 10) Not a window or aisle seat guaranteed on deadheads. 11) No Profit sharing 12) Pay for smaller planes? Will we fly them? 13) Stopped reading TA because of the headache is was causing. Etc. ETC. eTc. EtC. etc……….. Good catch from someone on another thread --- and keep catching these types of items - - - - - - page 1. Specifically 1-B-3 And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread: 1-D-g and 1-E-6 Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control" Now read in Section 2, "Definitions" 2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket! IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc? |
Originally Posted by BugsBunny
(Post 2518584)
Some issues to consider besides the many valid points floating around this site and others. Keep finding and posting the shortfalls and hidden “gems” like the one at the bottom I saw online?
1) 70% short of full retro (in the example I used) 2) vacation – explain the way vacation drops work with 2 days on each side? 3) Lower pay compared to ALL airlines in same category that have received new contracts (Jet Blue and Frontier excluded because they are in negotiations). 4) PBS blows and you have no idea what you will get even if you are a senior guy. 5) 5 hours per day Trip average – Not 5 hours per day 6) Long stay changing from 14 hours to 18 hours – puts us in worse hotels 7) Five year contract vs a four year contract. No extension, raises or a guarantee of raises or retro pay. 8) Hotel buyback is at company discretion. Does this mean they can take it away at their discretion? 9) Company can reassign at any time? 10) Not a window or aisle seat guaranteed on deadheads. 11) No Profit sharing 12) Pay for smaller planes? Will we fly them? 13) Stopped reading TA because of the headache is was causing. Etc. ETC. eTc. EtC. etc……….. Good catch from someone on another thread --- and keep catching these types of items - - - - - - page 1. Specifically 1-B-3 And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread: 1-D-g and 1-E-6 Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control" Now read in Section 2, "Definitions" 2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket! IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc? |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2518571)
I’m amazed it took three years to get this. Now where is that ready to strike lanyard
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2518629)
This could/should have been done in 2 days of negotiations, can’t believe it took over 2years to come up with this
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
(Post 2518631)
Must not have been following negotiations very well then.
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Originally Posted by thor55
(Post 2518536)
Awful TA. Stay at your regional with possibly better work rules.
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