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chesty 02-13-2018 06:19 PM

Health insurance for new hires
 
Anyone have info on this?

FNGFO 02-13-2018 06:41 PM

None for the first three months. Either use COBRA from your last job for a month or get a catastrophic coverage plan for a month and then you have Spirit’s COBRA for the remaining two months. If you get sick you can sign up with a 60 day look back. Don’t get sick and don’t pay a dime. Imperfect work around, but there it is.

Pgus 02-14-2018 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2527860)
None for the first three months. Either use COBRA from your last job for a month or get a catastrophic coverage plan for a month and then you have Spirit’s COBRA for the remaining two months. If you get sick you can sign up with a 60 day look back. Don’t get sick and don’t pay a dime. Imperfect work around, but there it is.

This is effing embarrasing and should be illegal.(not directed at you FNGFO).

flyingpuma1 02-14-2018 03:39 AM

You don’t get any for 90 days, it’s an embarrassment and it’s even worse they didn’t fix it in the new ta. Since you would be new if the ta passes you also can’t get on the pos b as it would have to be grandfathered in.


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Justmeagain 02-14-2018 05:13 AM

Continental used to have a 6 month waiting period. This is totally LEGAL for the company to do. Does it suck? Yes. Did it affect me? Yes. Should we waste negotiating capital on new hires that aren’t even on property? Or first year guys that can’t even vote? The answer is NO.
Why? It’s up to the company to create attractive first year conditions and recruit new hires. Every dollar spent on first year guys is a dollar that comes off something else. I agree that it’s a distasteful reality, but so is a member voting yes/no based on emotion and not objectivity.

Qotsaautopilot 02-14-2018 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Justmeagain (Post 2528068)
Continental used to have a 6 month waiting period. This is totally LEGAL for the company to do. Does it suck? Yes. Did it affect me? Yes. Should we waste negotiating capital on new hires that aren’t even on property? Or first year guys that can’t even vote? The answer is NO.
Why? It’s up to the company to create attractive first year conditions and recruit new hires. Every dollar spent on first year guys is a dollar that comes off something else. I agree that it’s a distasteful reality, but so is a member voting yes/no based on emotion and not objectivity.

The company is never going to do that. Imo we have to look out for each other and we needed to do the right thing here.

Timeismoney 02-14-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2528111)
The company is never going to do that. Imo we have to look out for each other and we needed to do the right thing here.


I think they try to run the state of California like that.

Justmeagain 02-14-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2528111)
The company is never going to do that. Imo we have to look out for each other and we needed to do the right thing here.

That’s a nice utopian viewpoint and I actually do like it. But this group, whether it’s the company or the individual Pilots, will never do that. Just look around. There are an unbelievable number of guys/girls here that will step over you to grab something for themselves. I see it all the time and I’m sure you do too.
The insurance for new hires is a distasteful reality, but it’s the company’s problem and only the company’s problem.

symbian simian 02-14-2018 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Justmeagain (Post 2528120)
That’s a nice utopian viewpoint and I actually do like it. But this group, whether it’s the company or the individual Pilots, will never do that. Just look around. There are an unbelievable number of guys/girls here that will step over you to grab something for themselves. I see it all the time and I’m sure you do too.
The insurance for new hires is a distasteful reality, but it’s the company’s problem and only the company’s problem.

The reason it is only the company's problem is because we didn't make it our problem. I think it should have been part of the survey (and forgive me if it was, but I don't remember seeing it), and the survey result should have been available to the pilot group. Most pilots against sponsoring first year: fine I won't complain, but to suggest it is never our problem without asking if we want to make it our problem is wrong. (and no, I am not in California)

Qotsaautopilot 02-14-2018 08:16 AM

I was pretty shocked that training pay and no healthcare for 90 days made it to the TA. I guess I had wrongfully assumes that there was no way those things would stay.


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