What will GYE be worth after PBS implement
02-16-2018 | 04:38 AM
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What will GYE be worth after PBS implement
F4251
3 day trip. Fll-GYE layover GYE-FLL
T.A.F.B. 3415
Block 11:00
Credit 11:00 (currently)
Layover 20:45
TDuty 13:30
FDP 12:30
What will this be worth after our new rules go into effect?
3 day trip. Fll-GYE layover GYE-FLL
T.A.F.B. 3415
Block 11:00
Credit 11:00 (currently)
Layover 20:45
TDuty 13:30
FDP 12:30
What will this be worth after our new rules go into effect?
02-16-2018 | 04:54 AM
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It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
02-16-2018 | 05:07 AM
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It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
Doesn't change the answer, but just a point to be made.
02-16-2018 | 05:09 AM
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I just looked up pairing F4251 and I don’t know what you were looking at but you were way off.
FLL to GYE to FLL: Block 9:10 / Credit 13:30....layover 23:50
TAFB: 35:30
Block:9:10
Duty Rig: 11:40/2 = 5:20
Trip Rig: 35:30 /3.5 = 10:08
Duty Period= 2 = 10 hours will fall short of 24 hour layover after PBS.
So: 10:08 plus 8% override actually you get 10:57 total credit
FLL to GYE to FLL: Block 9:10 / Credit 13:30....layover 23:50
TAFB: 35:30
Block:9:10
Duty Rig: 11:40/2 = 5:20
Trip Rig: 35:30 /3.5 = 10:08
Duty Period= 2 = 10 hours will fall short of 24 hour layover after PBS.
So: 10:08 plus 8% override actually you get 10:57 total credit
Last edited by Freightcowboy; 02-16-2018 at 05:19 AM.
02-16-2018 | 05:18 AM
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It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
It would be the greater of block, trip rig, duty period, 5 hr average duty period.
Block: 11 hours
Trip Rig: Just under 9.8 hours (34:15/3.5)
Duty Rig: 6.75 hours (13:30/2)
Duty period average: 10 hours (5 hours)
Block is the highest number, therefore the trip will pay 11 hours. No change, right?
I thought the new rules were designed to protect us from these inefficient pairings. This isn’t the only one. There are many more out there and probably more to come. The company gets three working days of our life for 11:00 credit.
02-16-2018 | 05:21 AM
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Unless DTW crews do it. DTW-FLL-GYE ..then Reverse it next day. We can fly up to 9 hours now so that’s for sure doable. Pairing constriction will change quite a bit system wide . Some will
Be much better and efficient , some will
Prolly suck.. some are good now and some suck. But with growth, change in Rigs, and Increase to 9 hours , I don’t think we can compare today’s pairing to what they’ll look like in 12 months
Be much better and efficient , some will
Prolly suck.. some are good now and some suck. But with growth, change in Rigs, and Increase to 9 hours , I don’t think we can compare today’s pairing to what they’ll look like in 12 months
02-16-2018 | 05:27 AM
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I just looked up pairing F4251 and I don’t know what you were looking at but you were way off.
FLL to GYE to FLL: Block 9:10 / Credit 13:30....layover 23:50
TAFB: 35:30
Block:9:10
Duty Rig: 11:40/2 = 5:20
Trip Rig: 35:30 /3.5 = 10:08
Duty Period= 2 = 10 hours will fall short of 24 hour layover after PBS.
So: 10:08 plus 8% override actually you get 10:57 total credit
FLL to GYE to FLL: Block 9:10 / Credit 13:30....layover 23:50
TAFB: 35:30
Block:9:10
Duty Rig: 11:40/2 = 5:20
Trip Rig: 35:30 /3.5 = 10:08
Duty Period= 2 = 10 hours will fall short of 24 hour layover after PBS.
So: 10:08 plus 8% override actually you get 10:57 total credit
I’m sorry I was looking at too many things at once.
F4287 is FLL - LAX layover LAX-FLL
THREE DAY AT 10:57
F4251 is FLL-GYE layover GYE-FLL
THREE DAY 10:57
*************Down from 13:30 credit post pb********************
So, post PBS WILL BE A PAYCredit CUT for this particular pairing.
WTF
02-16-2018 | 05:31 AM
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I’m sorry I was looking at too many things at once.
F4287 is FLL - LAX layover LAX-FLL
THREE DAY AT 10:57
F4251 is FLL-GYE layover GYE-FLL
THREE DAY 10:57
*************Down from 13:30 credit post pb****************
So, post PBS WILL BE A PAYCredit CUT for this particular pairing.
WTF
F4287 is FLL - LAX layover LAX-FLL
THREE DAY AT 10:57
F4251 is FLL-GYE layover GYE-FLL
THREE DAY 10:57
*************Down from 13:30 credit post pb****************
So, post PBS WILL BE A PAYCredit CUT for this particular pairing.
WTF
Hopefully the JPWG having access and input to the pairing optimizer will be largely beneficial.
Plus, like another poster said, increased fleet sized will have a large effect on pairings. More than likely to our benefit.
P.S. Congrats on another international layover!
02-16-2018 | 05:34 AM
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