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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
(Post 2533002)
Don't forget ExpressJet, Contract 2004. 2.5 years of 100% Retro. Oh, but earlier I was accused of being unrealistic.
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
(Post 2533302)
I hope you enjoy being at the bottom on the list at DL when you leave.......... oh wait
But hey, at least you used "their" correctly, which is better than most of the Yes voters can do when they get triggered by a "No." |
Originally Posted by dexx
(Post 2533303)
Hawaiian, 100% retro, plus 15% in the 401k.
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Originally Posted by Timeismoney
(Post 2534049)
It was not full retro. Yet another bit of bad info.
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Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2534081)
They did pass their contract by 76%, which I would bet is where we end up at
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Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2530579)
Double Wrong. Wrong Wrong (Thats 4 wrong)
We have a meltdown this year, we will have our behinds dragged into court in a second and the TRO will hang over us until the next meltdown. You are hoping the company has another meltdown, we dont bail them out, a judge doesnt see this as a TRO violation, and the company doesnt play their trump card and drag us back to court. All this happens and the company goes to us with bags of additional money? Sounds logical. How will you like it when a judge issues damages against us and we are now having to deduct a paycheck assessment to pay off Spirit management for the judgement? Don't think it can happen, has happened before in this industry. I know you like to play Mr. Mom and drop your reserve days and stay home. And thats the TRUE reason you want this contract to fail. Hey, no harm. But thats your motivation, dont hide it as anything but that. |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534278)
Nobody gives a sh!t about the TRO except for the few idiots that ran their mouths on social media and ALPA national. The Meltdown was a company self inflicted wound and if it happens again I hope APLA grows some balls and defends the pilot group from false accusations. Paychecks will never be garnished or this place would come to a screeching halt.
The TRO is still in effect and will be the first card management plays in the event of any meltodown, pilot induced or not. If you think they view the TRO as “in the past” and water under the bridge, you are mistaken. It’s still in effect and any operational hiccup will be brought back to the judge and they will seek to have the TRO enforced. Why do you think the TRO is the first thing on our union website, still? Garnished paychecks? Shows me how you really don’t understand how this works or how it has worked in the past with TRO orders and lawsuits against labor unions by management. They don’t just come and garnish your paycheck. Just make sure you keep your promise and end this acct when this passes in 6 days. |
Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2534453)
You are wrong on so many levels, but that’s standard for you.
The TRO is still in effect and will be the first card management plays in the event of any meltodown, pilot induced or not. If you think they view the TRO as “in the past” and water under the bridge, you are mistaken. It’s still in effect and any operational hiccup will be brought back to the judge and they will seek to have the TRO enforced. Why do you think the TRO is the first thing on our union website, still? Garnished paychecks? Shows me how you really don’t understand how this works or how it has worked in the past with TRO orders and lawsuits against labor unions by management. They don’t just come and garnish your paycheck. Just make sure you keep your promise and end this acct when this passes in 6 days. The meltdowns were self inflicted due to poor planning and mismanagement. Your disconnect with reality is astonishing! |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534497)
You are so sadly misinformed! Get off APC and educate yourself. The TRO “card” will not be played again unless there is proof a concerted effort to disrupt the operation.
The meltdowns were self inflicted due to poor planning and mismanagement. Your disconnect with reality is astonishing! Just look what you typed above, how does someone contradict themselves that quickly? The TRO request was filed and issued by a judge because the judge felt there was a concerted effort to disrupt. It doesnt matter WHY the meltdown really happened because a judge said and felt otherwise with their TRO order. For example; it doesnt matter that you were probably hired because you are a woman. Because as of today, you are still a Spirit pilot. It doesnt matter the reason why there was a meltdown. Because as of today, there is still a TRO against the pilots because of that. Read the TRO and stop being a fool if you dont understand it, ask your MEC if you are still that clueless. Not only is it ordered that we dont do anything to disrupt the operation, but WE are the ones responsible for getting it back on its feet if it does go down. Read... |
Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2534511)
Says the person who had a source of a super secret TA2, that was already negotiated. :rolleyes:
Just look what you typed above, how does someone contradict themselves that quickly? The TRO request was filed and issued by a judge because the judge felt there was a concerted effort to disrupt. It doesnt matter WHY the meltdown really happened because a judge said and felt otherwise with their TRO order. For example; it doesnt matter that you were probably hired because you are a woman. Because as of today, you are still a Spirit pilot. It doesnt matter the reason why there was a meltdown. Because as of today, there is still a TRO against the pilots because of that. Read the TRO and stop being a fool if you dont understand it, as your MEC if you are still that clueless. Not only is it ordered that we dont do anything to disrupt the operation, but WE are responsible for getting it back on its feet if it does go down. Read... I’m just F-ing with you bro! Haven’t you learned not to waste your time with my ridiculous posts. You are so consumed with proving you point of view, no one gives a sh!t Get a life! |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534518)
Hahahhahaha
I’m just F-ing with you bro! Haven’t you learned not to waste your time with my ridiculous posts. You are so consumed with proving you point of view, no one gives a sh!t Get a life! |
Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2534523)
Im glad to see you are not "as" dumb as you come off to be.
I get greeted in the crewroom by my screen name. Watch this............. |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534529)
After I’m done with difsripp I sit with my F.O.s and we think up stupid sh!t to get you die hard apc posters all fired up.
I get greeted in the crewroom by my screen name. Watch this............. |
Originally Posted by CLRtoPush
(Post 2534564)
It seems your husband is not giving you the attention you need, so you come on here to get the male interaction you crave. Your welcome for filling your gaping hole.
How dare you! |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534568)
I’m a lesbian and a born again Christian and I’m reporting you to the moderators for your inappropriate sexist remarks.
How dare you! |
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER
(Post 2534568)
I’m a lesbian and a born again Christian and I’m reporting you to the moderators for your inappropriate sexist remarks.
How dare you! |
Originally Posted by EyeoftheTiger
(Post 2530101)
Delta got full retro last contract, just FYI.
It was like a small percentage point gain over a few months! Bahahahaa |
Originally Posted by Happy Grapes
(Post 2530563)
Haha...Wrong
Guys were hanging around in airports for hours, waiting for hotel rooms, waiting to see where they are going....New contract we are getting paid to sit and wait when they are contemplating a reschedule. We were getting rescheduled then for nothing. Guys were getting rescheduled into days off and getting nothing in 2015. 4.5 pay for some. With the TA we will be compounding to 200% Stick to the truth. Meltdown 2015 will happen at this place from time to time. Question is simple: Do you want to make extra money when it melts down or hang around waiting for your quid? Ill take the contract that specifies the money vs a goodwill gesture from Bendo when it happens. How much did guys make when they were stuck in Houston for the hurricanes this year? Was it 3.5 trip rig with 200% for the entire trip once they hit their 2nd day stuck there? Do the math, a 4 day with 2 extra days stuck in IAH this year 3.5 rig, all at 200% per the new contract, around 80 hours credit....Over $16k pay for a CA. How much did our guys get paid with this "awesome contract" this time? Thats what I thought. |
The Signing "Bonus" is the problem
More people need to look at current JetBlue rates and our TA. Practically the same, and is laughable! Don’t sell yourself short
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