The Signing "Bonus" is the problem
02-16-2018 | 07:03 AM
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The Signing "Bonus" is the problem
Serious question:
What would the consensus among our yes voters be if there was no one-time taxed "bonus" for trading away so much... to be locked into a subpar agreement for the next 5-8 years?
What would the consensus among our yes voters be if there was no one-time taxed "bonus" for trading away so much... to be locked into a subpar agreement for the next 5-8 years?
02-16-2018 | 07:27 AM
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I will go out on a limb and say that if you are a FO and voting yes, it is not because of the bonus. That being said, 350+ FOs are on probation and won't be participating by providing a vote
02-16-2018 | 07:39 AM
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I would guess around 1500 to 1600 pilots would be eligible to vote. I agree as an FO the signing bonus is a joke.( I am voting yes)
02-16-2018 | 08:10 AM
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Anything less than 100% retro is a joke. It sends a message to the company that it was okay to drag this out for 3 years.
They get to keep our 43% pay raises for themselves. (Minus the bonus, which makes it about, roughly, approximately, plus or minus, 2 years pay we lose.) That's about 6 figures for nearly every pilot who's been here since early openers.)
Oh, and expect nothing to change in 5 years when we do this all again.
They get to keep our 43% pay raises for themselves. (Minus the bonus, which makes it about, roughly, approximately, plus or minus, 2 years pay we lose.) That's about 6 figures for nearly every pilot who's been here since early openers.)
Oh, and expect nothing to change in 5 years when we do this all again.
02-16-2018 | 08:22 AM
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Question 1: What airline has ever gotten "full retro?"
Question 2: How do you figure they keep our pay raise for themselves?
Guys like you come on here and make these outlandish statements like they are facts. If you want to hate this TA fine, but give a good reason. I cannot imagine how you could back up anything you're saying with logic or anything based on reality, but please indulge us...
Question 2: How do you figure they keep our pay raise for themselves?
Guys like you come on here and make these outlandish statements like they are facts. If you want to hate this TA fine, but give a good reason. I cannot imagine how you could back up anything you're saying with logic or anything based on reality, but please indulge us...
02-16-2018 | 09:35 AM
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Anything less than 100% retro is a joke. It sends a message to the company that it was okay to drag this out for 3 years.
They get to keep our 43% pay raises for themselves. (Minus the bonus, which makes it about, roughly, approximately, plus or minus, 2 years pay we lose.) That's about 6 figures for nearly every pilot who's been here since early openers.)
Oh, and expect nothing to change in 5 years when we do this all again.
They get to keep our 43% pay raises for themselves. (Minus the bonus, which makes it about, roughly, approximately, plus or minus, 2 years pay we lose.) That's about 6 figures for nearly every pilot who's been here since early openers.)
Oh, and expect nothing to change in 5 years when we do this all again.
02-16-2018 | 09:39 AM
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Question 1: What airline has ever gotten "full retro?"
Question 2: How do you figure they keep our pay raise for themselves?
Guys like you come on here and make these outlandish statements like they are facts. If you want to hate this TA fine, but give a good reason. I cannot imagine how you could back up anything you're saying with logic or anything based on reality, but please indulge us...
Question 2: How do you figure they keep our pay raise for themselves?
Guys like you come on here and make these outlandish statements like they are facts. If you want to hate this TA fine, but give a good reason. I cannot imagine how you could back up anything you're saying with logic or anything based on reality, but please indulge us...
02-16-2018 | 10:04 AM
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