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Dukeuno 03-04-2018 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by balakay (Post 2542617)
So instead of posting a DB post, why not take the high road? Reference and post the section talking about the 3 hour language and....Be a better man

This is what I found in the new hire handbook for Spirit ALPA

Reserve Duty Obligations
When Scheduling notifies you of a trip assign
-
ment, you are allocated three hours to be at the
aircraft ready to depart. You have 15 minutes from
when Crew Scheduling calls you to return the call
and accept the assignment
. The time you accept
the assignment is when notification occurs, not at
the time Crew Scheduling initially calls
.

.

Opposite Qotsa 03-04-2018 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by balakay (Post 2542617)
So instead of posting a DB post, why not take the high road? Reference and post the section talking about the 3 hour language and....Be a better man

I did. I referenced the quote from the newhire handbook and the contract.

balakay 03-04-2018 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Opposite Qotsa (Post 2542640)
I did. I referenced the quote from the newhire handbook and the contract.

Kind of, but not really. Look up and see what Duke did. That's what I was talking about. Look, I don't care about your spat with another member-but it does get old.

Qotsaautopilot 03-04-2018 08:00 AM

I guess the point is what does ready to depart mean. It doesn’t mean ready to push and the union volunteers can verify that for you. It’s ooor language that should’ve been clarified in the CBA 2018 but it wasn’t so precedent is what we use. You are not required to be on the plane ready to push in 3hrs

Dukeuno 03-04-2018 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2542666)
I guess the point is what does ready to depart mean. It doesn’t mean ready to push and the union volunteers can verify that for you. It’s ooor language that should’ve been clarified in the CBA 2018 but it wasn’t so precedent is what we use. You are not required to be on the plane ready to push in 3hrs

It does say 3hrs at the aircraft ready to depart. So you can’t be walking through security at 3hrs, you have to be at the aircraft.

RgrMurdock 03-04-2018 08:46 PM

Anyone have any more clarification on this? I live about 2.5 hours drive from a base. With the 15 minute call back I could easily be at the airport but probably not ready to push.

symbian simian 03-04-2018 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2543116)
It does say 3hrs at the aircraft ready to depart. So you can’t be walking through security at 3hrs, you have to be at the aircraft.

Yup, you have to be at the aircraft ready to depart (but not the aircraft). If both of us are called out of reserve, we can both show at the gate ready to depart 3 hours later. We have 45 minutes to get the aircraft ready to depart (under old contract this was 30 minutes, but current contract specifies a 45 minute show time AT the aircraft).

IANAL, and until someone can post a completed grievance showing what the 3 hours means all of this is a waste of time.

Fordmun 08-09-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by RgrMurdock (Post 2543124)
Anyone have any more clarification on this? I live about 2.5 hours drive from a base. With the 15 minute call back I could easily be at the airport but probably not ready to push.

Was curious about this as well as an applicant with the same questions. Is short call 3 hours to show after an assignment? Tried to use the search function! Thank you!

onedolla 08-09-2018 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Fordmun (Post 2652090)
Was curious about this as well as an applicant with the same questions. Is short call 3 hours to show after an assignment? Tried to use the search function! Thank you!

3 hours to PUSH after crew scheduling calls you. Subtract however long it takes YOU to get your job done to prep the plane for push and you have your "commute" time.

Super EZ E 08-09-2018 02:57 PM

Here we go again. Make your best attempt and that's all you can do. Traffic, WX, road construction, Airport parking and other thing are out of your control. I can say 100% as long as you get there in a reasonable amount of time no one is going to say anything. You get in a wreck because Spirit says your fired if you don't push in 3 hrs Spirit will have hell to pay. The contract says ready to go, not PUSH. That was done with a purpose. Clearly not a mistake or overlooked.

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