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gatorbird 05-18-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2595709)
70% of Spirit Pilots didn’t want to adjust these items, because they didn’t want to “waste negotiating capital on New Hires.”

Drats, you caught me. I thought I had everyone fooled when I pretended to be looking over the TA as it pertained to my take-home income, retirement, quality of life and risk exposure in regards to LTD and scope. But you’re a slick one; all I really cared about was hosing a newhire!

TCASTESTOK 05-18-2018 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin (Post 2590733)
FAA just said no to all the training in the right seat until AQP. All new hire training will still be in the left for now.

DFW sims are not overflow for new hires or upgrades. It's planned months in advance, we need all the sim slots to handle 60 new hires and 24 upgrades a month.

Uhh why no training in the right seat? All FOs start out there anyway when they get on the line. Also what exactly is AQP? Isnt it train to proficieny instead of a whole FAA rating ride?
Weekend warrior here so be kind.

balakay 05-19-2018 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2597357)
Uhh why no training in the right seat? All FOs start out there anyway when they get on the line. Also what exactly is AQP? Isnt it train to proficieny instead of a whole FAA rating ride?
Weekend warrior here so be kind.


Because your getting a PIC type rating and (correct me if I'm wrong) the training syllabus and program are specified that way too.

Macjet 05-19-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by balakay (Post 2597724)
Because your getting a PIC type rating and (correct me if I'm wrong) the training syllabus and program are specified that way too.

You can get PIC typed irrespective of which seat you train from. But you are correct about the syllabus. It's archaic and in the process of being changed.

FlyingOkra 05-19-2018 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2596777)
Drats, you caught me. I thought I had everyone fooled when I pretended to be looking over the TA as it pertained to my take-home income, retirement, quality of life and risk exposure in regards to LTD and scope. But you’re a slick one; all I really cared about was hosing a newhire!

Ah man, you did all of that research and still voted in a CBA that fell drastically short of the JetBlue AIP. Drats!!!

Gjn290 05-19-2018 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2597765)
Ah man, you did all of that research and still voted in a CBA that fell drastically short of the JetBlue AIP. Drats!!!

It didn’t fall short of JB’s AIP. To fall short would imply that JB had an AIP. They didn’t. They also didn’t have as much to improve as we did.

FlyingOkra 05-19-2018 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2597790)
It didn’t fall short of JB’s AIP. To fall short would imply that JB had an AIP. They didn’t. They also didn’t have as much to improve as we did.

No foresight or self worth. You accepted numerous concessions for what is essentially JetBlue current rates plus $1-$2. Knowing full and well that they were inline for large raises.

balakay 05-19-2018 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2597737)
You can get PIC typed irrespective of which seat you train from. But you are correct about the syllabus. It's archaic and in the process of being changed.


Correct....you can in both seats and why I included the part of the syllabus where it defines how the FAA approved training is conducted (which seat)

Silver02ex 05-19-2018 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2597809)
No foresight or self worth. You accepted numerous concessions for what is essentially JetBlue current rates plus $1-$2. Knowing full and well that they were inline for large raises.

It’s pretty easy for you to judge others since you moved on :rolleyes: you seem very obsessed with a contract that you didnt vote on that has no affect on you. Seriously you’re more ****ed off than the no voters on here.

gatorbird 05-19-2018 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2597886)
It’s pretty easy for you to judge others since you moved on :rolleyes: you seem very obsessed with a contract that you didnt vote on that has no affect on you. Seriously you’re more ****ed off than the no voters on here.

That guy doesn’t even work here anymore? Jesus man, get a life.


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