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Green Giant 04-30-2018 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Alphafloor (Post 2582751)
probably not a bad idea considering some of our guys have outstanding warrants for things like not paying alimony and felony assault.

Good thing we screen better now than we did in the distant past. Expansion and better contracts tend to attract better people too. Hopefully those strange individuals get the idea that they are not welcome here.

Alphafloor 04-30-2018 08:23 AM

It’s OK. Some of them were homeless and fishing in the rain before coming here. It’s was probably just a “stop gap” measure in the past anyway.

Andy 04-30-2018 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Alphafloor (Post 2583177)
It’s OK. Some of them were homeless and fishing in the rain before coming here. It’s was probably just a “stop gap” measure in the past anyway.

I was homeless for a while after my first furlough - well, actually I alternated living in my car and a storage unit. It was a choice between paying child support and paying rent. I chose to pay child support.

I was better prepared financially for my second furlough. Crap happens in this business.

319wisperer 04-30-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 2581982)
Looks as though our FA’s are approved to wear Teal(Frontier Green) on their uniforms. The company has also been introducing this in their advertising. What do you make of it? Teal doesn’t exactly go with Black and Yellow. We may have a marriage coming.

Spirit does advertisements, since when? If you’re referring to the Flash banner at the top of Spirits home page I guess the route lines showing new service are kind of tealish but they can’t do everything black and yellow and I do seem to recall that about a year and a half or so ago it was announced that new “highlight” color(s)would be introduced into branding. Frontier’s main color is a deep green, not even close to teal. They do have that arrow on thier new paintjob that is close to teal but is more of a light blue.

I’m not saying for a second that a Frontier marriage is out of the realm of possibility, but I seriously doubt that the powers that be are going to subtly drop hints by adding a secondary color to our branding that our potential partner also happens to use as a secondary color about a merger/aqusition that otherwise needs to be kept very tight lipped until the deal is final and announced as it would likely generate huge competitive response and likely major opposition.

It’s reminds me of the time about 5 years ago that an NK FA swore to me that a Southwest merger was imminent because some of the Coke cans in her galley cart had Southwest branding. She insisted it was hints being dropped by Mgmt., I was fairly certain it was a catering mix up.

FNGFO 04-30-2018 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by 319wisperer (Post 2583208)
Spirit does advertisements, since when? If you’re referring to the Flash banner at the top of Spirits home page I guess the route lines showing new service are kind of tealish but they can’t do everything black and yellow and I do seem to recall that about a year and a half or so ago it was announced that new “highlight” color(s)would be introduced into branding. Frontier’s main color is a deep green, not even close to teal. They do have that arrow on thier new paintjob that is close to teal but is more of a light blue.

I’m not saying for a second that a Frontier marriage is out of the realm of possibility, but I seriously doubt that the powers that be are going to subtly drop hints about a merger/aqusition that will likely generate huge competitive response and likely major opposition by adding a secondary color to our branding that our potential partner also happens to use as a secondary color.

It’s reminds me of the time about 5 years ago that an NK FA swore to me that a Southwest merger was imminent because some of the Coke cans in her galley cart had Southwest branding. She insisted it was hints being dropped by Mgmt., I was fairly certain it was a catering mix up.

Well that’s no fun. I think the teal highlights are a clear indication of our looming merger with Fr...Alaska. Why not?

319wisperer 04-30-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2583213)
Well that’s no fun. I think the teal highlights are a clear indication of our looming merger with Fr...Alaska. Why not?

Well if we’re talking about the possibility of being based in PDX some day in the distant future, then belay my last, an Alaska merger is imminent and teal highlights prove it 😜

FNGFO 04-30-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by 319wisperer (Post 2583268)
Well if we’re talking about the possibility of being based in PDX some day in the distant future, then belay my last, an Alaska merger is imminent and teal highlights prove it 😜

Take to the bank and spread the word.

Jetalc 05-01-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2576074)
Good- F9 has to be better run than jetblew.:D

LOL - nope. "Circus" would be an insult to Barnum and Bailey.

Ed Force One 05-01-2018 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by 319wisperer (Post 2583208)
It’s reminds me of the time about 5 years ago that an NK FA swore to me that a Southwest merger was imminent because some of the Coke cans in her galley cart had Southwest branding. She insisted it was hints being dropped by Mgmt., I was fairly certain it was a catering mix up.

Imagine how disappointed I was after my EMB145 was catered in Houston with Coke cans from Japan, only to later be told that we were *not* opening a Narita base.

Jett i son 05-02-2018 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2583207)
I was homeless for a while after my first furlough - well, actually I alternated living in my car and a storage unit. It was a choice between paying child support and paying rent. I chose to pay child support.

I was better prepared financially for my second furlough. Crap happens in this business.

Sorry to hear that Andy and props on your hard choice.
I was unemployed before and understand your predicament.
Thank goodness we were able to rent out our home and saved it.
My kids learned some life lessons in the process.
All the best.

flyboyike 05-08-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2583207)
I was homeless for a while after my first furlough - well, actually I alternated living in my car and a storage unit. It was a choice between paying child support and paying rent. I chose to pay child support.

I was better prepared financially for my second furlough. Crap happens in this business.

I was homeless for nearly three months WITHOUT even being furloughed.

SilentLurker 05-08-2018 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 2575999)
there is no benefit to our pilot group to merge with anyone, dont understand the fascination with nk/f9 merger that is likely never going to happen



No insults just saying a strong & sure thing comment like the above tend to make people think you have not been in aviation long enough.

SilentLurker 05-08-2018 06:47 AM

Merger/acquisition
 

Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2577252)
I don't see any merger within the next 5 years. If the economy takes a dump and fuel prices spike; then there will be a rash of mergers. Until then, business as usual.



Smarter industry analysts (multiple) are for sure we will see M&A attempts that will happen really soon. Much much sooner than 4-5yrs. Also oil prices have spiked 30% over a few short months (how long will it stay at these levels is the concern).

Many carriers F9, B6, NK, SW, Alaska, Hawaiian, United Continental are evaluating themselves & all long-term opportunities.


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