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SkywardAZ 01-10-2019 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2740306)
I doubt the regulators would allow a Spirit/American merger considering the overlap of flights.

We are very strong, so I look forward to more plane orders for us. If a merger does happen, it will be out of left field. Something like a Spirit Silver merger or some other strange combination.

Besides that AA could never afford us. They are deeply in debt and they need new planes. They are one economic downturn from being in trouble. IMO

putzin 01-10-2019 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by LandGreen (Post 2740334)
Most logical post on the subject so far.

This schedule flexibility that everyone cheers about is subject to change in the future. When Spirit slows the growth and settles into its size, you can bet they will lean the operation and it will more in line with most other airline where dropping down will be very difficult unless you are in the top 10% for your seat. The 75% green grid will only protect those at the top, as seen last summer, ect.
I’m not a doom and gooom guy, this is just the reality. Saying an American buyout would be bad for the pilot group is an emotional reaction.

Not bad for the pilot group??? Maybe you missed the last couple of mergers they were involved in.

AA, no way! I'll take anyone else, but organic growth is always best.

Sorry, that's the "reality".

flyingpuma1 01-10-2019 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2740268)
I have friends there. in fact one has been there 5 years and his advice is do not go. He's still working holidays, still working 13 off and the only benefit in his words is the money.

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So what your saying is it’s my schedule but without the better travel benefits and pay? And no I don’t bid reserve voluntarily I can’t hold a line in the base I live in (also not acy).


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elmetal 01-10-2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 2740352)
So what your saying is it’s my schedule but without the better travel benefits and pay? And no I don’t bid reserve voluntarily I can’t hold a line in the base I live in (also not acy).


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You could be a super senior FO in all our bases at 5 years. you could also be a lineholding captain.


my friend in the above predicament is an FO.


I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht

elmetal 01-10-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2740345)
Not bad for the pilot group??? Maybe you missed the last couple of mergers they were involved in.

AA, no way! I'll take anyone else, but organic growth is always best.

Sorry, that's the "reality".

Find me a us air or America West pilot happy with the AA contract.


Don't worry I'll wait.

flyingpuma1 01-10-2019 10:30 AM

Spirit Mulls Adding Smaller Jets
 

Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2740362)
You could be a super senior FO in all our bases at 5 years. you could also be a lineholding captain.


my friend in the above predicament is an FO.


I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht



I am a ca but can’t hold a line in about half the bases which includes the one I live in. (and of the bases I could “hold a line” that’s only because people bid down, I’m not 50% up the seniority list on the CA side in any base)


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Varsity 01-10-2019 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by SkywardAZ (Post 2740341)
Besides that AA could never afford us. They are deeply in debt and they need new planes. They are one economic downturn from being in trouble. IMO

AA has 5 billion in cash. I think they'll be alright.

lowandslow 01-10-2019 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2740362)
You could be a super senior FO in all our bases at 5 years. you could also be a lineholding captain.


my friend in the above predicament is an FO.


I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht

If he’s already been there 5 years he’s going to have an amazing seniority boost in the next few years. Curious to see the comparison then.

Tranquility 01-10-2019 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2740372)
AA has 5 billion in cash. I think they'll be alright.

They had roughly $4 billion when they declared bankruptcy.... And they were smaller, so the cash could go further.
Cash on hand means little when you're carrying $20+ billion I debt.

elmetal 01-10-2019 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 2740378)
If he’s already been there 5 years he’s going to have an amazing seniority boost in the next few years. Curious to see the comparison then.

He's 55% in base in seat. If you need more than that to avoid garbage trips, and 13 days off, then like I said before I don't want itnot that any any of us have a sayy in a merger. I'd literally rather merge with frontier and take my chances at a JCBA than merge with American. Ever.


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