Is LAS a junior base?
 

How junior is LAS, just curious if it’s possible to get LAS as a new hire, that would be my easiest commute. Thanks

You’ll probably hold it in less than 6 months.

8 months to hold a line in LAS as an FO

How long for ORD or DTW? And how long should one expect to sit reserve as a new-hire?

Also curious about this ^, and....

What's an 85 hour credit schedule look like for an average line holder? Daily average credit for the pilot group?
Does spirit have 5 day trips?

No. And that sounds like a terrible idea...

Latest what if award shows guys holding DTW, ORD, DFW, and obviously ACY before they’re done with training. Probably could get FLL too. Only base you may have to wait a few months is Vegas.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No 5 days but they will throw a 4 and a 2 or a 3 and 3 together.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks! What about jr lineholder DOH for each base?

As a commuter I’d love to see 5 day trips paired with the 3.5/1 duty rig.

As a commuter sure, and only if it were completely optional. Problem is it wouldn't be optional and lineholders living in base could end up being gone for four nights at a time and some don't want that.

Nooooo! 4 on 4 off. Pick your trip mix for the 4on with pure lines.

As a commuter at RAH with PBS I always bid for the five day trips. I never got any. They always went to the super senior commuters. You build your own schedule with PBS. Other negatives notwithstanding, it does help keep the peace between commuters and in-basers.

I'm not sure exactly. Few months for DTW. There really isn't an easy way to figure that out that I can think of.

if the trips were higher credit you would never need 5-6 days in a row, 3 x 25hr 4days and you are done for the month, all i get (7+ yr ca) is 4day+2day or 3day+3day, 18hr 4days or 13.5 3day, im a commuter and its a horrible quality of life

Yep. Yet all we heard during negotiations was the amazing qol. I guess it was only amazing if you like making half pay and dropping

i wasnt able to drop or swap anything for may, 0-14

I would trade my new payrates for the ability to reserve drop like we used to. Once you lose QOL you don’t get it back.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You guys forgetting that the improved rigs will come into play when PBS is implemented??
Pairing quality will improve.

Sorry I don’t agree. My point was those that actually treat this like the full time career it is never had a good quality of life. We shouldn’t have to drop half our payrates and then drop another half in credit to have qol.

Respectfully disagree btw

So who do you want to work for? Frontier or Spirit? LOL

We have 6 day trips. Nothing like. double (sometimes TRIPLE deadhead) to get into position to fly another bases 4 day.

What’s the pairing number for these six day trips you are talking about???? Haven’t seen any of those. Or are you talking about back to backs? Because that’s not a six day.

I'm thinking RSV assignment.
Also loving the 22-23:45 overnights!

Nope. Got off reserve years ago. U don’t like it, bid a line. It’s called RESERVE...

We still have the 22 hour layover rig until PBS implementation.

I was talking about RSV. I know that really isnt the same but they do happen to RSVs guys

Anyone mind posting a schedule or junior lineholder schedule? Let's say something like this for a given month...
15 days off total.
14 hour 3 day trip, 2 days off, 18 hour 4 day, 5 days off, etc etc.

Thanks! Just trying to get a big picture idea of what a schedule would be like at Spirit.

YOU got off reserve, good for you looking out for number one!
That's shortsighted and self-centered and the reason why this turd passed at 70%.
I got off reserve too, but was not willing to throw the whole reserve QOL under the bus because I was not affected by it.
At a previous airline this attitude backfired at those few who did not care much about the commuters, when their base closed!
It's supposed to be a union remember? NOT each one for themselves...
Bob and Bendo would love that!
Unfortunately it looks like they partially succeeded.

What the F are you talking about? No one threw anyone under the bus when it comes to reserve pilots. The reserve guys did it to themselves by abusing the system everyday. God I'm sick of you crybabies who feel you should get paid to checkerboard and that going to work should be a rare event. Looking out for number 1 is a phrase people like you use when the group wasn't looking out for "your" specific interests.

How was doing something the contract allowed "abusing the system everyday?" It seems to me that working as little as possible while getting paid as much as possible is just smart. Don't be mad at those who were lucky enough and smart enough to enjoy excellent QOL.

Whatever dude. The reserve drop game was doomed years ago. Reserve now looks like everyone else’s reserve.

Because they made it so the company couldn't use them. If RSV guys didn't all do it every week you would still have it. Just because something is allowed in the contract doesn't mean it can't be abused. I'm not saying it's wrong but treating it the way people did ensured its destruction. Smart enough? It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to drop a work day and no one is mad at them for doing it. Just sick of hearing people complain about it as if the whole group should have given something up to make sure they could continue sitting at home.

Are we voting on a new contract already?

Have a Grande Latte.

Plane Coffee

Your virtue signaling here just makes you look like a fool. Exploiting the CBA such as checkerboarding is great, but expecting that loophole to survive into our new contract is beyond unrealistic.

Bottom line is we had them by the balls BECAUSE people were checkerboarding, among other things such as transition. But yet 70 percent were dumb enough to give in for a guaranteed five years of near industry bottom contract because they thought "most people don't get transitions, and most people can't checkerboard." Talk about short sighted!

Ha, I wish, haven’t seen 20+ 4 day in a while, most open time in LAS is 14hr 4day

Oh why didn’t I think if that! If I could get off reserve I would. But since you offered why yes I will trade with you and take your line.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There is NO 85 hr line for avg line holder, in May only 60 out of 875 lines have more than 85 hr credit. Min credit 72, avg credit 76, avg days off 14.5 excluding reserve which has 12 days off.