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06-28-2018, 12:40 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,464
Originally Posted by biigD
From everything I hear about Spirit, I’ll bet you guys have better flexibility than us. The only reason I posted above was to point out that we *can* trade with open time and straight drop, depending on the red/green situation.
Overall I like my schedule, but being a non-commuter helps as I don’t care as much when a trip starts or finishes. I fly middle of the week three day trips. The trips themselves are busy - two legs per day, and tend to start early and end late in the afternoon - but that’s a function of me requesting high value trips (19 hours or better). My ideal lazy month is 12 days of work for mid-70s credit, and if I want to make a little more I’ll pick up a turn or two.
I have about 4.5 years here and was originally an Airways guy, but as much as we like to ***** about our work rules (rightfully so), it honestly hasn’t been bad at all for me. That said, we have tons of room for improvement in the upcoming contract.
Overall I like my schedule, but being a non-commuter helps as I don’t care as much when a trip starts or finishes. I fly middle of the week three day trips. The trips themselves are busy - two legs per day, and tend to start early and end late in the afternoon - but that’s a function of me requesting high value trips (19 hours or better). My ideal lazy month is 12 days of work for mid-70s credit, and if I want to make a little more I’ll pick up a turn or two.
I have about 4.5 years here and was originally an Airways guy, but as much as we like to ***** about our work rules (rightfully so), it honestly hasn’t been bad at all for me. That said, we have tons of room for improvement in the upcoming contract.
06-28-2018, 12:41 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 51
Thanks for the info.
I'm currently at PSA, almost 1k jet. While the flow is great to have in the back pocket, I dont want to just sit back and think I'll get my number called in 5-6 years.
These LCCs like Spirit seem to be offering quality schedule flexibility and great pay.
Granted it's not like anyone is knocking on my door to hire me.
I just dont want to apply somewhere that isnt great.
I'm currently at PSA, almost 1k jet. While the flow is great to have in the back pocket, I dont want to just sit back and think I'll get my number called in 5-6 years.
These LCCs like Spirit seem to be offering quality schedule flexibility and great pay.
Granted it's not like anyone is knocking on my door to hire me.
I just dont want to apply somewhere that isnt great.
06-28-2018, 12:48 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 192
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Agreed. If you want to drop 100% why did you interview. For health insurance? How do you pay your mortgage?
Many responses between your post and mine to show how narrowly you’re thinking about 100 percent drops.
06-28-2018, 02:26 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Originally Posted by 319wisperer
Seriously?! Why do you care. Obviously you want to fly so you can improve your paycheck, thus you should be all for the ability to drop 100 percent; more honey in the pot.
Many responses between your post and mine to show how narrowly you’re thinking about 100 percent drops.
Many responses between your post and mine to show how narrowly you’re thinking about 100 percent drops.
06-28-2018, 03:29 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 924
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
You have a valid point. I don’t really want to fly more for more money. I want to fly the same for more money. I do think work rules are important. I just heard a lot of “I’m here for the work rules”. Which translates I’m willing to settle for less money to have a part time job. It’s all over so it doesn’t matter anyway
06-29-2018, 01:26 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 192
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
You have a valid point. I don’t really want to fly more for more money. I want to fly the same for more money. I do think work rules are important. I just heard a lot of “I’m here for the work rules”. Which translates I’m willing to settle for less money to have a part time job. It’s all over so it doesn’t matter anyway
You’re saying why take wage or other QOL consessions to keep the ability to drop to zero, Or why not trade the 100 percent drop option for an improvement elsewhere. For some reason I mistakingly though you just were advocating letting it go.
Fair point- for me the ability to drop 100 percent of my schedule is extremely valuable, so there would have to be a massive carrot for me to let it go. I do however acknowledge that I am likely an outlier.
06-29-2018, 02:53 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,734
Originally Posted by elmetal
And I sure hope you (as well as every other airline) makes great improvements. Best of luck! I have friends there and I wish the best for all of y'all!
07-04-2018, 01:56 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by elmetal
I'm on first year, and I have not yet worked a holiday.
The flexibility is mind blowing.
ps. I'm not working the 4th either.
I live a very modest life, and I don't NEED to credit 120 hours to live, so the flexibility here for me is paramount.
The flexibility is mind blowing.
ps. I'm not working the 4th either.
I live a very modest life, and I don't NEED to credit 120 hours to live, so the flexibility here for me is paramount.
07-05-2018, 05:31 AM
#39
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: B-767 FO
Posts: 554
Has everyone forgotten that y’all just voted in a Contract that took away this Schedule Flexiibility that you’re boasting about for a significant % of the Pilot group? Upon PBS implementation Reserves will only be able to Drop 1 Day per year and current Reserves are already handcuffed by the new CBA.
07-05-2018, 07:23 AM
#40
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 279
Originally Posted by FlyingOkra
Has everyone forgotten that y’all just voted in a Contract that took away this Schedule Flexiibility that you’re boasting about for a significant % of the Pilot group? Upon PBS implementation Reserves will only be able to Drop 1 Day per year and current Reserves are already handcuffed by the new CBA.
