it’s been “coming in a few weeks” for a couple years. They tried to change the current training either for initial or recurrent and missed the deadline the submit for the changes. Speaks for itself just how changes and updates to training is going.

Nope. Manual revisions expected in the next few days. Regarding gates, it's a cross between an elephant and a rhinoceros.

Well let’s get this AQP up and running for initial training. We can’t have new hires worrying about pink slipping a conventional check ride, blemishing their application for legacy X.

As an aside, I've met two FOs now that have been involved in busted recurrent LOE. As explained, if one of the lines of a situational event has a Y next to it and the Y is not achieved, it is a pria bust. Retrain and retest at a later date. AQP is not unfailable. That said, i haven't met a young and new FO that seems to even care about pria, as ive flown with several that have failed initial, and they speak about it like the fail doesnt even matter.

Just a sign of the times really.

how much seniority does it take ...
 

Hello,

How many months does it typically take to hold FLL as your base as a new hire FO. How many months does it typically take to hold a line instead of working reserve?

Thanks

Base vacancies happen monthly, most likely you can hold FLL before you finish training. Just flew with a guy holding a line after 7 months on property.

Was in an interview pool last week. Very large group.

The Director of training stated that they were putting the finishing touches on AQP for initial and that he expected October/November for the first AQP-initial class.

The question about holding FLL (and other bases was also asked) - the general answer was that you would probably be able to hold almost any base you wanted before you completed training. Time to hold a line, however, was largely base-dependent.

In my May interview class they also said AQP was right around the corner and would be rolled out in August. I am in class now and no AQP, although it’s really not that big of a deal. As for the bases that appears to be close to accurate. I don’t think you will necessarily get what you want right out of training but it will be pretty close.

Have the times changed very much from May?

You did the amateur mistake of believing the interviewers. Lmao. AQP is not coming (anytime soon). Jetblue merger isn't happening (ever).

It’s coming at the same time as lpv approval.

Yes Interviewers promote all types of stuff and pass it off like it’s already established and set forth, when reality it’s nothing more than a jumpseat chatter. JetBlue is notorious for this, telling California prospectus that LAX is going to explode and potentially widebodies. (see LAX-Hawaii) I remember flying with a former chief pilot who returned to the line who seemed to have deep conscience questioning moment about this very practice.
Yes it’s called Lying, but it’s pretty much standard industry practice (todays code word for justifying unethical business practices)
As for these particular Spirit forecasts, one of these things COULD be true but certainly not both. AQP cost many American Dolla, if Spirit remains stand alone…..I don’t see the incentive for it.
Contrasted with the acquisition:merger, by:with JetBlue ……there is a court trial set to begin on Oct 16….where it is very much the intent of one side to make that a reality.
If the reality comes true then by default it’ll be AQP because JetBlue is.

Sssssssssssssalty. You weren’t hired, that happens. Your opinions based on (maybe) nine months of 121 experience isn’t much help to other candidates. Go enjoy your chill.

Starting to make sense on why you weren’t hired, besides the multiple failed check rides, obviously.