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westcoastj 07-31-2023 10:14 AM

Hi all, I start with the company in September and have some questions about the LAS pilot base

1) how long would it take to hold a line? how about Long call? - Training is 2 months plus a 2-3 week to get IOE done, then a month of a relief line. so thats about 4 months on property without actually sitting reserve. so with that being considered can someone give me the average time currently it takes to hold a line or long call? I live in PHX and would be cool with LCR as the commute is quite easy.

2) Do LAS trips consist of any international flying? - Is the international stuff usually straight from LAS or do you get funneled into somewhere like FLL? - do those trips go senior?

3) piggy backing on the last question, what is the trip build usually like out of LAS? Is there lots of 4 leg SOCAL shuttle trips? I heard lots of redeye's to the east coast, but after the redeye whats the rest of the trips like

4) could I pick up any X/Y listings being a commuter from PHX?


If you have any other information about the base that you think would useful please let me know


Thanks!

Mando314 07-31-2023 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by westcoastj (Post 3675688)
Hi all, I start with the company in September and have some questions about the LAS pilot base

1) how long would it take to hold a line? how about Long call? - Training is 2 months plus a 2-3 week to get IOE done, then a month of a relief line. so thats about 4 months on property without actually sitting reserve. so with that being considered can someone give me the average time currently it takes to hold a line or long call? I live in PHX and would be cool with LCR as the commute is quite easy.

2) Do LAS trips consist of any international flying? - Is the international stuff usually straight from LAS or do you get funneled into somewhere like FLL? - do those trips go senior?

3) piggy backing on the last question, what is the trip build usually like out of LAS? Is there lots of 4 leg SOCAL shuttle trips? I heard lots of redeye's to the east coast, but after the redeye whats the rest of the trips like

4) could I pick up any X/Y listings being a commuter from PHX?


If you have any other information about the base that you think would useful please let me know


Thanks!

1 - I’d bet a line takes about 6 months on reserve to get especially going into the slower season. I’d say long call would be about 4 months since Vegas is the base with the most long calls. Also yes it’s possible to have 4-5 months on property without sitting reserve. If you finish IOE after the 4th of the month then you will get an extra month of relief lines.

2 - int’l flying is routed thru IAH or MCO or FLL and normally not fun with redeye jungle turns. Definitely not senior. People drop them since the 8% override is not worth it.

3 - trips are all over the place. There’s long turns to like MSY that go senior, 4 leg locals that go junior, 1 redeye day stay and fly back that night, lots of legs on 2/3 days, and 4 days that are longer legs.

4 - You can grab X lists out of Vegas yes but some callouts are not too long to get it commutable. Can also Y list in PHX but I wouldn’t bet on any certain income since not too many flights there and if someone calls out need to get a very quick call that a reserve can’t fill. Also you need to match days off to that pilot calling out.

Off topic 5. Vegas is a very commutable base with a lot of flights and great commuter policy and easily doable from PHX. Also for short call reserve prob want to preference the redeye reserve period since those are more commutable but the downside is those don’t pay as much and you’ll never break guarantee.

BlueRidge1 08-15-2023 01:08 PM

Currently, how long would it take for a new hire FO to hold FLL as a domicile? Can you estimate how long I'd be on reserve before I could hold a line?

If the JB merger is approved, could I be displaced by JB pilots or would I still hold FLL, but loose my seniority within the base?

Thanks ...

SSlow 08-15-2023 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by BlueRidge1 (Post 3683174)
Currently, how long would it take for a new hire FO to hold FLL as a domicile? Can you estimate how long I'd be on reserve before I could hold a line?

If the JB merger is approved, could I be displaced by JB pilots or would I still hold FLL, but loose my seniority within the base?

Thanks ...

Your seniority within the base will most definitely be loosened, meaning you will become more junior if that is what you were attempting to dictate in your post.

crjflyer0023 08-15-2023 06:01 PM

is spirit aqp for initial now?

SoFloFlyer 08-15-2023 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3683317)
is spirit aqp for initial now?

Nope

filler

crjflyer0023 08-15-2023 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3683357)
Nope

filler

sucks, oh well

filler.....

SoFloFlyer 08-15-2023 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3683366)
sucks, oh well

filler.....

You’re taught the ride (kinda) from the beginning. No biggy.

SlimBob 08-16-2023 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3683317)
is spirit aqp for initial now?

In a couple weeks I'd expect the first class of AQP NH to start.

crjflyer0023 08-16-2023 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3683486)
In a couple weeks I'd expect the first class of AQP NH to start.

Interesting. Any idea what will be different then?

Will the "gates" spirit does basically be implemented as part of validation events... Then a MV and then LOE?


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