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Old 08-19-2018 | 06:31 PM
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I know we can drop any middle R days anymore with the new contract, but is there anything that is preventing us from putting a middle R day on the trade board and trading it away. I’m a line holder in Vegas but would totally pick up single R-19 days if they were ever on the trade board knowing I would never work if I spaced them out. Just a little food for thought!


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Old 08-22-2018 | 08:53 AM
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Company will never fall for that. They can't do much with one day of reserve. But in the old days, they would give you reserve day at 150% by just calling scheduling. Was nice !!
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Old 08-22-2018 | 09:32 AM
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Why not the day is being traded not dropped. Per flica they would still have the coverage. Don’t see anything in the contract that prevents this.


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Old 08-22-2018 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HardPassSpa
I know we can drop any middle R days anymore with the new contract, but is there anything that is preventing us from putting a middle R day on the trade board and trading it away. I’m a line holder in Vegas but would totally pick up single R-19 days if they were ever on the trade board knowing I would never work if I spaced them out. Just a little food for thought!


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CBA-25-G-1-h:
Mutual trades resulting in a single R day will not be allowed.
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Old 08-22-2018 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
CBA-25-G-1-h:
Mutual trades resulting in a single R day will not be allowed.
But you can in theory trade the other guy so you're 2 on, he's 2 on etc etc so essentially 2 on 2 off checkeboarding?
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Old 08-22-2018 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
But you can in theory trade the other guy so you're 2 on, he's 2 on etc etc so essentially 2 on 2 off checkeboarding?
"Mutual trades involving LCR days or SCR periods must be for the same type of reserve duty (i.e., no LCR for SCR trades or vice versa allowed). However, an entire block of LCR days may be traded with an entire block of SCR periods, provided that the revised schedules do not conflict with the pilots’ existing schedules. Mutual R day trades will be permitted from the “outside in” only. Mutual trades resulting in a single R day will not be allowed."

As far as I know yes. You would need someone on a opposite schedule, trade your last two against his first two and keep going until you have created 2-on-1-off for both of your months. Also one R19 day covers 2 calendar days, I guess there is probably a ruling out that classifies it as one day for the purpose of trading but I would like to see someone try and grieve it.....
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Old 08-22-2018 | 05:06 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the first rule of fight club is?
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Old 08-22-2018 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Can anyone tell me what the first rule of fight club is?
This. Why don’t people get this?
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Old 08-22-2018 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Can anyone tell me what the first rule of fight club is?
Maybe I’m doing it wrong but it’s in the contract, it’s not a secret.
I think it’s good if everyone does this, so the company will have to hire more people for adequate coverage and later spend negotiating capital to resolve it in the next contract. This is the time for all of us together to stretch every rule as far as we can.
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Old 08-23-2018 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Maybe I’m doing it wrong but it’s in the contract, it’s not a secret.
I think it’s good if everyone does this, so the company will have to hire more people for adequate coverage and later spend negotiating capital to resolve it in the next contract. This is the time for all of us together to stretch every rule as far as we can.
Or just like dropping middle R days things become a standard practice and then we give up drops all together and rsv rules get gutted. We could drop middle days for over 7 years but it only became a problem for the last two because guys started running their mouths and everyone began doing it and destroying rsv forever for two years exploitation.
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