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Originally Posted by YourMom
(Post 2680231)
Screw the government for getting involved in every business. If you don't like the legroom pony up for a company that gives you legroom. I don't want to see more regulations.
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Originally Posted by YourMom
(Post 2680231)
Screw the government for getting involved in every business. If you don't like the legroom pony up for a company that gives you legroom. I don't want to see more regulations.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2680325)
Exactly, who needs seatbelts, crash resistant seats, O2 masks and especially work and rest rules.
...but seriously, safety I’m all for but this is comfort we are talking about...Congress doesn’t need to get involved in that. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 2680354)
Yeah! Screw the O2 masks!!!
...but seriously, safety I’m all for but this is comfort we are talking about...Congress doesn’t need to get involved in that. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2680325)
Exactly, who needs seatbelts, crash resistant seats, O2 masks and especially work and rest rules.
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Originally Posted by YourMom
(Post 2680231)
Screw the government for getting involved in every business. If you don't like the legroom pony up for a company that gives you legroom. I don't want to see more regulations.
When government sets the floor or standards of anything, innovation suffers as does competition. The minimum becomes the standard in most cases... Look at different bussines, from butter in the USA compared to overseas, to building standards in the USA... The list goes on and on... |
I think at some point putting 250 people in a bus or a 737 is a safety concern.
However, the problem with measuring minimum seat size by "pitch" is not right. The thickness of the seat is a huge factor that pitch does not account for. The ultra slimline seats on frontier actually give plenty of legroom with less pitch. I've sat on both united and AA economy recently and it's unquestionably less legroom than frontier. Comfy seats, but terrible legroom. The FAA simply can't go with pitch, it's a bad metric to use |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2680956)
I think at some point putting 250 people in a bus or a 737 is a safety concern.
However, the problem with measuring minimum seat size by "pitch" is not right. The thickness of the seat is a huge factor that pitch does not account for. The ultra slimline seats on frontier actually give plenty of legroom with less pitch. I've sat on both united and AA economy recently and it's unquestionably less legroom than frontier. Comfy seats, but terrible legroom. The FAA simply can't go with pitch, it's a bad metric to use |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2680956)
I think at some point putting 250 people in a bus or a 737 is a safety concern.
However, the problem with measuring minimum seat size by "pitch" is not right. The thickness of the seat is a huge factor that pitch does not account for. The ultra slimline seats on frontier actually give plenty of legroom with less pitch. I've sat on both united and AA economy recently and it's unquestionably less legroom than frontier. Comfy seats, but terrible legroom. The FAA simply can't go with pitch, it's a bad metric to use |
Originally Posted by ecam
(Post 2681063)
The FAA is going with pitch because the ULCCs have seats with fixed pitch. The legacies seats recline so while offering less leg room and width they offer more pitch. This is just the FAA placing their finger on the scale for the big airlines. As usual.
a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, and after providing notice and an opportunity for comment, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall issue regulations that establish minimum dimensions for passenger seats on aircraft operated by air carriers in interstate air transportation or intrastate air transportation, including minimums for seat pitch, width, and length, and that are necessary for the safety and health of passengers It’s fun to speculate that the FAA wants to end ULCC, with zero evidence of this, but try to stick to facts. What are examples of “as usual” where the FAA enacts policy to favor legacy carriers while trying to hurt ULCC? |
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