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Tranquility 09-26-2018 09:05 AM

This is something that has me scratching my head; our seats have 28” pitch and American’s is 30”. Now, if your seat reclines 2” on AA, isn’t the pitch now 28” for the person behind you?

TrojanCMH 09-26-2018 11:07 AM

I think every airline is going to fight this. Even the big boys with their “30 inches of pitch”. No airline wants regulations. Even if they have no intention of shrinking their seats.


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Ducttape 09-26-2018 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2681248)
I think every airline is going to fight this. Even the big boys with their “30 inches of pitch”. No airline wants regulations. Even if they have no intention of shrinking their seats.


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Well Airlines For America, the lobbying group for the big boys, supports the house resolution.

http://airlines.org/news/airlines-for-america-statement-on-the-faa-reauthorization-bill/

In the end this seat pitch/width junk is 1 paragraph in 500+ pages of this bill. They (Airlines) aren’t worried about it because they know nothing is going to happen in regards to seat pitch width that will hurt them.

Meanwhile the bill has a ton a good things like finally setting standards on this service animal abuse we see

Chief Brody 09-26-2018 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2680956)
I think at some point putting 250 people in a bus or a 737 is a safety concern.

However, the problem with measuring minimum seat size by "pitch" is not right. The thickness of the seat is a huge factor that pitch does not account for. The ultra slimline seats on frontier actually give plenty of legroom with less pitch. I've sat on both united and AA economy recently and it's unquestionably less legroom than frontier. Comfy seats, but terrible legroom.

The FAA simply can't go with pitch, it's a bad metric to use

Then the FAA needs to rewrite the type certificate data sheets.
This is nothing more than a wellfare handout to the legacy carriers that can't compete in a free market.

elmetal 09-26-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2681175)
This is something that has me scratching my head; our seats have 28” pitch and American’s is 30”. Now, if your seat reclines 2” on AA, isn’t the pitch now 28” for the person behind you?

no, because you can recline your seat 2 inches


"airline logic"

Tranquility 09-26-2018 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2681471)
no, because you can recline your seat 2 inches


"airline logic"

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Green Giant 09-27-2018 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2681175)
This is something that has me scratching my head; our seats have 28” pitch and American’s is 30”. Now, if your seat reclines 2” on AA, isn’t the pitch now 28” for the person behind you?

How about the width of the seats? Ever have someone next to you try to squeeze into a seat that they just don’t fit in? I just love getting an arm or elbow in my chest and the fat from the torso flowing over the arm rest.

People are getting too big, wide, whatever. The 6 seats across the plane of any narrow body at any airline are too narrow. They should change it to a max of 5 PAX seating across the width of the plane with wider seats.

elmetal 09-27-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2681951)
How about the width of the seats? Ever have someone next to you try to squeeze into a seat that they just don’t fit in? I just love getting an arm or elbow in my chest and the fat from the torso flowing over the arm rest.

People are getting too big, wide, whatever. The 6 seats across the plane of any narrow body at any airline are too narrow. They should change it to a max of 5 PAX seating across the width of the plane with wider seats.

are you suggesting the airlines to take a 16% cut in revenue across their narrowbody fleet and somehow not go down kicking and screaming?

Green Giant 09-27-2018 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2681965)
are you suggesting the airlines to take a 16% cut in revenue across their narrowbody fleet and somehow not go down kicking and screaming?

No, if that is the number, then I’m suggesting ticket prices are raised 16%. Your post was simply stupid.

elmetal 09-27-2018 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2681991)
No, if that is the number, then I’m suggesting ticket prices are raised 16%. Your post was simply stupid.

you want 6 seats per row to become 5. that's a ~16% decrease in seats.

great job for calling me stupid when you can't even do the very simple math that YOU suggested.

bravo.

and when Delta decides to do it, and American doesn't, delta loses money because people will go for the cheaper ticket.


Yeah... great plan


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