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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2697791)
Frontier guy here.
Can someone please explain the 321 override to me please? I understand it depends on the number of 21s in the fleet and that number can and will change. What is the current %override from the rates posted in the airline profiles section of this site? Thanks. Last month my A321 override was worth $5 extra an hour over my 80 hours credit and the pay was $404 extra. Month prior was more because of summer time block hours. But I usually just take my hourly rate and increase by 2% on my hourly rate and that is my effective rate with it blended, five or take. Here is the language The rates of pay for Airbus pilots shall be based on the ratio of total system-wide A321 block time to the sum of system-wide A319/ A320 and A321 block time (revenue and non-revenue) in the month. For example, in Septem-ber 2005, 2,400 block hours (50 percent) are flown in the A321, and 2,400 combined block hours (50 percent) are flown in the A319/A320. Therefore, all Airbus pilots shall be paid 105 percent of their rate of pay set forth in Section 3 of the Basic Agreement, regardless of which aircraft they are assigned/awarded, for all credit earned in the month. The overage shall be paid on the second paycheck in the following month, in this example, on the second paycheck in October 2005. |
Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
(Post 2697796)
It varies slightly month to month and is published in the bid pack each month. It adds about $2/hr to the rates or gives you an extra hour or two of credit each month, however you want to look at it.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2697867)
Thank you. That's what I thought but had heard the override was more
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Additionally, we’ve received our last 321 on our current order book. So the ~2% will be more diluted as we take more deliveries of 320’s....
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 2698060)
Additionally, we’ve received our last 321 on our current order book. So the ~2% will be more diluted as we take more deliveries of 320’s....
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 2697867)
Thank you. That's what I thought but had heard the override was more
In Spirit terms we just take company wide airbus block hours instead of each single pilot. Whatever portion of the total block hours is 321 gets a 10% override. So if 25% of the Airbus block hours is 321 then that 25% of the flying gets a 10% override. That’s a 2.5% increase on all of the flying. So we take that 2.5% and apply it to every hour of credit each pilot has for the month whether it’s 321 or not. As mentioned before as we take more 320s and the ratio of 321s goes down so will the override. Just as if it were another airline and they grew the 320 fleet and not the 321s at the same pace it would be less likely you’d fly 321 and therefore your monthly override money would be reduced. The override stays in place (10%) you just see it less often and get less of it. Point being- the override is 10%. We just spread it around equally to the pilot group. |
Sounds like travel benefits are so-so.
Are the ZED agreements Spirit has mostly Low, Medium, or High cost? |
Profit share?
Is there a profit share? I haven't seen it discussed at all.
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Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus
(Post 2704244)
Sounds like travel benefits are so-so.
Are the ZED agreements Spirit has mostly Low, Medium, or High cost? Hawaiian $60 Southwest $40 Frontier $30 Virgin Atlantic $100 Lufthansa $100 Alitalia $100 |
Originally Posted by djslappy
(Post 2704304)
Is there a profit share? I haven't seen it discussed at all.
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