Please don't get him started with his wiener contests, we'll be reading about it for...
oh, never mind. Too late.

Same and at any rate it’s not making things worse at least for me being jr in ord


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Depending on ones seniority the backward slide is already starting. Reductions from the current bases for MCO are getting much more junior it looks like.

What's your intel?

Look at this guys history of posts. I would rather put faith in reading the diarrhea squirts of an mange dog as tarot cards before listening to him.

The van drivers uncle in BWI.

3 upgrades for January, don’t come here for the “quick” upgrade.


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[QUOTE=flyingpuma1;2717186]3 upgrades for January, don’t come here for the “quick” upgrade.

Is it staying that way or is it possible that it will change?

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I’m not sure honestly. Every month everyone’s said “next month they will upgrade more.” So far for the last 8-10months (if I remember right) it seems like they haven’t upgraded many.



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At the pace of the last 10 months it would take 20 years to upgrade here. Hopefully it picks up

We still have 40-50 airplanes coming so I’m sure it will pick up.

if we order more planes it will pick up...if not...last captain was hired in 2016....99% chance we order more

I’m not so sure anymore, everyone assumed they would order more planes after the new contract passed too and that hasn’t happened......


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They keep telling investors during their quarterly earnings calls that they are going to order more planes. Unless there is a merger in the works, which I kind of doubt, I think we will see an order soon.


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2017*******

The order has already been placed, and they’re waiting for the right time to make the announcement. Likely when the new CEO takes over. We’re also scrounging for any delivery slots coming open from failed airlines elsewhere.

It’s been what? 9 months since the contract passed with 50 some odd more deliveries due in the next two years and people think we’re standing pat at that? Come’n man.

Agreed. They won't announce a new order as the current CEO has one foot out the door. They wait for the new CEO to announce the order so it sets the stage for him and the company moving forward.

Not saying you’re wrong but where does this rationale come from?

Thats a good point.

Because if the current CEO announces the next massive step for the airline and then steps out the door, it kind of leaves the new CEO standing around with his DK in his hand and doesn't create the image of a new company leader with exciting company expansion. Is this logic that hard to understand? a new leader with goals of more expansion increases interest and stock prices.

No, the sky is falling. Upgrades are done, anyone hired now will be stuck on eternal reserve, everyone is better off going to Mesa. Did I hit all the points?

I bet it coincides with the new unis and perhaps our official slight rebranding.

Certainly logical. I’ve just heard this hypothesis a few times now and there doesn’t seem much to back it up. In today’s corporate America most CEOs are short term and manage for the quarter. It’s all about Me me me. Seems odd to negotiate a big order and let your successor have all the glory.

I agree....Ted has been leading this airline in most aspects for a while now, behind the scenes and in front. The conference calls are much more about Ted vs Bob. Investors aren’t much interested in what Bob “would” do if he were still at the helm going forward, as they are with Ted on what he “will” do.

More likely they are still finalizing an order or securing the best financing for the order.

With 55 more deliveries and a pending order (what part of "we are talking to all manufacturers" about a future order is hard to comprehend?), upgrades will continue like business as usual. It slows down for a bit to figure out MCO staffing and FLL reduction and everyone is up in arms about it.
Anyone who has been in this industry long enough knows that everything happens in waves. 12 more deliveries are about to hit the fleet in the next 4 months. I am sure that will cause the number of upgrades to pick back up for a bit.

The most common refrain has been that any new order would be after Jan 1st. Does this coincide with new CEO / Pres., could be.

Staffing for 2019 has lately been @420 new hires and @200 CUG.

I believe PBS co bid will start in March, with full PBS by summer. Anyone want to guess what PBS will do to staffing and reduction in reserve numbers?

I can think of one good reaso for Bob to want Ted to be successful: stock options.

With the interim transition and reserve language we have now I doubt it will be that much more efficient with PBS.


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I wouldn’t be worried about upgrade times anymore.

I have been told from multiple sources that with the recent Lion Air 737 Max order cancellation (see link on bottom) Boeing is under even more pressure to give us a deal more that what was mentioned before. And with that Spirit had already placed the order for some of (or all) Lion Air’s cancellations and like others have said it will be anncouned by our new CEO after the new year. The other advantage that Spirit had with picking up these orders from where Lion Air left off is that we don’t have to wait long to start taking the MAX’s since they have been in the queue for a while. Also it’s part of Spirits model to get the newer fuel efficient planes (just like our NEO’s)

I was also told by someone in the training department that we will actually be getting out first sim for it 2Q19. When I say getting our first sim, I’m sure it’s like what we are doing with AFG.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4227376-boeings-cancellation-battle-fast-grower

Dude, just shut up. I know you get your jollies over this, but it’s tired.

Oh look, you have more inside knowledge that is never actually true. Man you sure have a ton of " sources " who tend to know squat. I'm starting to think you actually working at Spirit might be false.

Is there something far-fetched about what I said?

Its the source, you.

Let me think....you’ve been a washout Spirit pilot, a FA, a current Spirit pilot....wonder what the truth is

You’ve named every city in the Western Hemisphere as a “new destination” from your “reliable sources”.

So you are a troll. Plain and simple. Troll

Maybe not. Welcome new VP of FLTOPS Jeff Miller who has recent experience bringing 'new aircraft types into the fleet'.

This place is going to really suck if we get 737's.

It’s all starting to piece together...maybe

Yup. Troll.

So this guy also has experience in turbo prop fleets, guess that means we might get ATRs or Dash 8s too?

Wasn’t he at AirTran too? Think that means we might be getting 717s as well?

Try to not squint too hard when connecting non existent dots, you might strain something.

I’m not wanting 737’s necessarily either, but any plane order I’ll be happy for.

Your own words say it best....

Maybe Boeing will throw in a few 787s to sweeten the deal on 737s. You know, since we’re posting BS.

Dang, you caught me red handed.