Is Spirit properly staffed for this summer
03-18-2019, 08:32 PM
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Don't you think it's rather naive to believe the company never conducted a detailed cost/benefit analysis of the implementation of such a financially significant aspect of the contract? I'm not buying it. What I am buying is that the longer said implementation takes, the more the company benefits, with next to no risk or cost.
03-19-2019, 05:37 AM
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It was Yuri selling PBS to Bendo as the magic wand to fix all Spirit Crew Scheduling problems. Put that together with what's happed in the meeting for PBS and its clear cost analysis was never done by either side. As I've said before I asked our union guys if it was done and the answer was no. 
ALPA didn't see the need.
ALPA didn't see the need.
03-21-2019, 02:17 AM
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They're not receiving any benefits from a system that isn't in place. You don't get more efficient use of pilots by continuing to use the old system, you get it when you start using the new system. So the company is also losing every month this drags out without implementation.
03-22-2019, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
They’re likely saving $3-5M a month in pilot pay by not using the new rigs.
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And saving tons of money from us losing the transition conflict without the new rigs in place. I'm not sure how or why the union agreed to this.
03-22-2019, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by beech_nut
And saving tons of money from us losing the transition conflict without the new rigs in place. I'm not sure how or why the union agreed to this.
What did the company hammer on the most? Transition conflict. They got that day one of this contract.
Perhaps the new credits and rigs will cost more than conflict did over time as we move towards 3000 + pilots. Oh well.
03-25-2019, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skytrekker
There were 3 negotiators and 9 MEC votes. 70% of @1500 eligible voters "agreed" to it.
What did the company hammer on the most? Transition conflict. They got that day one of this contract.
Perhaps the new credits and rigs will cost more than conflict did over time as we move towards 3000 + pilots. Oh well.
What did the company hammer on the most? Transition conflict. They got that day one of this contract.
Perhaps the new credits and rigs will cost more than conflict did over time as we move towards 3000 + pilots. Oh well.
03-26-2019, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
I was not here pre-contract. So inform me. My impression is that PBS and transition conflict changes were almost if not completely separate points of negotiation. One could happen without the other. So is the point on transition conflict savings really relevant when it comes to PBS?
PBS by default solves the transition conflict issue the company was having. Where we got bent over / out negotiated is when we agreed to give them the current transition conflict bandaid we have right now before getting our new rigs and duty day.
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03-26-2019, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
PBS by default solves the transition conflict issue the company was having. Where we got bent over / out negotiated is when we agreed to give them the current transition conflict bandaid we have right now before getting our new rigs and duty day.
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This. Well said.
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