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Tranquility 03-16-2019 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2783923)
I knew it was them or Manbearpig, and, yes, I’m super serial.

Manbearpig doesn’t exist... Fake news... :D;)

astral 03-16-2019 11:40 PM

If Bendo has people reading this thread, he would be thrilled.
That's how they play, plain dirty.
Just like the Distant Learning LOA lies and last minute PBS demands.
Bendo F*&% up about the rigs and is now throwing a fit...
This is who we are dealing with, remember that next time around!

Contract 2018 was a failure in many levels.
Folks are getting it now, ... but it's too late.
I'm in the hotel van listening to well meaning yes voters angry about rescheduling,
not being able to drop reserve, and multiple PBS issues, but I have to bite it not to say "told you so..."

Management has nothing to lose by stalling, they don't get penalized.
If one of us would decide not to abide by the CBA, we would be in Miramar ...
They have nothing to lose.
Not an even playing field.
Our retro was 1/6 of what was owed and we gladly took it!
That's the message we sent!

Let me reiterate:
Know who we are dealing with, and remember that next time around!

Keizer Soze 03-17-2019 07:27 AM

I find it funny that everyone I fly with now is a “no” voter. Seems statistically unlikely that it’s true.

AirbusA321Pilot 03-17-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by NKSRealityCheck (Post 2783922)
Most of the "senior guys" are disappointed with the deal. Your anger is misdirected. Maybe next time the junior guys won't be so apathetic and disengaged.

The year 3-8 captains were the ones that passed this deal. SG1159 is correct in stating "juniority" ruled. Also, many FOs gladly said yes. They threw a little money at them and they gave in.

The company deserves credit for changing the dynamics of this group. They hired a bunch of pro-growth, submissive candidates that voted in a sub-par, low tier deal.

The truth hurts.

There it is right there, exactly spot on, every word.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 03-17-2019 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Keizer Soze (Post 2784186)
I find it funny that everyone I fly with now is a “no” voter. Seems statistically unlikely that it’s true.

Probably because those that voted yes are too ashamed to admit it now. This delayed PBS implementaition scenario was so incredibly predictable if you have spent more than 5 minutes working for this POS management group. We signed the deal without getting the rigs at DOS and without knowing the rules of PBS. Who does that?

flyingpuma1 03-17-2019 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by NKSRealityCheck (Post 2783922)
Most of the "senior guys" are disappointed with the deal. Your anger is misdirected. Maybe next time the junior guys won't be so apathetic and disengaged.



The year 3-8 captains were the ones that passed this deal. SG1159 is correct in stating "juniority" ruled. Also, many FOs gladly said yes. They threw a little money at them and they gave in.



The company deserves credit for changing the dynamics of this group. They hired a bunch of pro-growth, submissive candidates that voted in a sub-par, low tier deal.



The truth hurts.



I fall into that demographic of 3-8 year ca and was a solid no, as were most my classmates I spoke with because of the reserve rules. Most of us in my seniority range bounce from relief to reserve line, the reserve rules were enough for me to vote No. I do agree the company did an excellent job of hiring people who are of the mind “this is better then my regional” and they voted that way. At this point if anyone complains about it I just ask if they voted yes, usually that’s the end of the discussion.


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8JRMfortheyear 03-18-2019 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by astral (Post 2784038)
If Bendo has people reading this thread, he would be thrilled.
That's how they play, plain dirty.
Just like the Distant Learning LOA lies and last minute PBS demands.
Bendo F*&% up about the rigs and is now throwing a fit...
This is who we are dealing with, remember that next time around!

Contract 2018 was a failure in many levels.
Folks are getting it now, ... but it's too late.
I'm in the hotel van listening to well meaning yes voters angry about rescheduling,
not being able to drop reserve, and multiple PBS issues, but I have to bite it not to say "told you so..."

Management has nothing to lose by stalling, they don't get penalized.
If one of us would decide not to abide by the CBA, we would be in Miramar ...
They have nothing to lose.
Not an even playing field.
Our retro was 1/6 of what was owed and we gladly took it!
That's the message we sent!

Let me reiterate:
Know who we are dealing with, and remember that next time around!


Brother let it rip! Im going ballistic trying to find my response to PBS being stalled by the company. No incentive to push it to go live. As one of my yes voter stated to me once, "I wanted to be over 200 hr , even if im a 10yr capt".

Face it, a lot of the yes voters are either punching out within 9 yrs, Happy to play airplane 100 blk/100 credit , over 200hr or short sighted.

LET IT RIP! TOLD YOU SO!

8JRMfortheyear 03-18-2019 03:18 PM

A recall can't come fast enough!

TexBubba 03-18-2019 04:00 PM

Recall from where and how long have you bypassed? Thought most recalls had to be back by now?

nkbux 03-18-2019 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by TexBubba (Post 2785190)
Recall from where and how long have you bypassed? Thought most recalls had to be back by now?

I believe he’s referring to our union reps


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