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03-13-2019, 10:40 PM
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captain scarlet
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Welcome to PBS!
The mock bid awards for March LAS CA were incorrect, and removed from Flica for manual correction.
PBS NOT allowing to bid for, or avoid, a specific RAP, is a major failure for RES bidding under PBS.
One could be awarded an undesirable RAP regardless of seniority, since days off have precedence over RAP!
Who agreed to that?
Why wasn't this addressed?
Did "they" care about reservists?
No drops and no choice of RAP...
PBS NOT allowing to bid for, or avoid, a specific RAP, is a major failure for RES bidding under PBS.
One could be awarded an undesirable RAP regardless of seniority, since days off have precedence over RAP!
Who agreed to that?
Why wasn't this addressed?
Did "they" care about reservists?
No drops and no choice of RAP...
03-14-2019, 03:18 AM
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You can bid for your spacific RAP but I don’t know that it makes much difference. The past two mock bids I’ve received R03 when it wasn’t even on my bid the first time and was my last preference on the most recent bid. I think it will be a win for lineholders as it will allow more flexibility in building one’s schedule but it will be a pain while on reserve.
03-14-2019, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KappaSigmaPilot
You can bid for your spacific RAP but I don’t know that it makes much difference. The past two mock bids I’ve received R03 when it wasn’t even on my bid the first time and was my last preference on the most recent bid. I think it will be a win for lineholders as it will allow more flexibility in building one’s schedule but it will be a pain while on reserve.
So if you wanted have a certain rap over maybe a certain day off there is no way to build your schedule in that way. The system says congratulations I got you the days off you wanted now let’s see what rap you want. Oops sorry I can’t give it to you on the working days I already awarded you so I’m going to give you this garbage rap you want no part of.
03-14-2019, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
The system does not even look at your RAP preferences until it awards your working and off days. If just a single one of your working days has enough coverage for a certain rap it will not award that rap. Period.
So if you wanted have a certain rap over maybe a certain day off there is no way to build your schedule in that way. The system says congratulations I got you the days off you wanted now let’s see what rap you want. Oops sorry I can’t give it to you on the working days I already awarded you so I’m going to give you this garbage rap you want no part of.
So if you wanted have a certain rap over maybe a certain day off there is no way to build your schedule in that way. The system says congratulations I got you the days off you wanted now let’s see what rap you want. Oops sorry I can’t give it to you on the working days I already awarded you so I’m going to give you this garbage rap you want no part of.
03-14-2019, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by astral
The mock bid awards for March LAS CA were incorrect, and removed from Flica for manual correction.
PBS NOT allowing to bid for, or avoid, a specific RAP, is a major failure for RES bidding under PBS.
One could be awarded an undesirable RAP regardless of seniority, since days off have precedence over RAP!
Who agreed to that?
Why wasn't this addressed?
Did "they" care about reservists?
No drops and no choice of RAP...
PBS NOT allowing to bid for, or avoid, a specific RAP, is a major failure for RES bidding under PBS.
One could be awarded an undesirable RAP regardless of seniority, since days off have precedence over RAP!
Who agreed to that?
Why wasn't this addressed?
Did "they" care about reservists?
No drops and no choice of RAP...
Let’s face it the new contract is pretty crappy for reserves in general.
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03-14-2019, 10:57 AM
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captain scarlet
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
The system does not even look at your RAP preferences until it awards your working and off days.
We ALL know this, and it is UNACCEPTABLE!
What we don't know/understand, is why the MEC/JPWG agreed to this?
Choosing your RAP is the most crucial part of RES, IMO more so than days off.
It only makes sense that it would be the other way.
Award RAP according to seniority, followed by the days off one can hold.
Back to my point about disregarding RES QOL.
Originally Posted by putzin
Well, we had to sign it to see what was in it. You expected, what?
You GET IT my union brother.
One more victory for Bendo.
Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
Let’s face it the new contract is pretty crappy for reserves in general.
Why are we accepting this, and taking another concession?
Great job JPWG!
Both seats in LAS missing from March mock awards.
Manual reversion...
03-14-2019, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by astral
Thank you.
We ALL know this, and it is UNACCEPTABLE!
What we don't know/understand, is why the MEC/JPWG agreed to this?
Choosing your RAP is the most crucial part of RES, IMO more so than days off.
It only makes sense that it would be the other way.
Award RAP according to seniority, followed by the days off one can hold.
Back to my point about disregarding RES QOL.
Blank check...
You GET IT my union brother.
One more victory for Bendo.
Absolutely.
Why are we accepting this, and taking another concession?
Great job JPWG!
Both seats in LAS missing from March mock awards.
Manual reversion...
We ALL know this, and it is UNACCEPTABLE!
What we don't know/understand, is why the MEC/JPWG agreed to this?
Choosing your RAP is the most crucial part of RES, IMO more so than days off.
It only makes sense that it would be the other way.
Award RAP according to seniority, followed by the days off one can hold.
Back to my point about disregarding RES QOL.
Blank check...
You GET IT my union brother.
One more victory for Bendo.
Absolutely.
Why are we accepting this, and taking another concession?
Great job JPWG!
Both seats in LAS missing from March mock awards.
Manual reversion...
03-14-2019, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
You do realize if raps were processed first and you got no days off you wanted that just as many if not more people would be ****ed.
03-14-2019, 01:28 PM
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captain scarlet
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^^^
Thank you!
That's exactly the issue.
NO choice between making days off, or RAP higher priority.
I would assume that most would rather have the desired RAP, even if not all of their days off were honored.
JPWG should fix that.
Thank you!
That's exactly the issue.
NO choice between making days off, or RAP higher priority.
I would assume that most would rather have the desired RAP, even if not all of their days off were honored.
JPWG should fix that.
03-14-2019, 05:43 PM
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Sorry but programming doesn't work that way. You don't have complete control over either with line bidding (you're RAP lining up exactly with your desired days off). If the reserve rules were less rigid allowing a mix of RAPs per block then it would be more flexible. One has to have priority over the other. You just get to see it before hand with line bidding because the company is already building lines with the exact number of lines with the RAPs they need. Days off as much as possible. Since RAPs must be over the entire month, one is flexible, one isn't. No wonder they chose days off.
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