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03-16-2019, 09:03 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 143
Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
It’s not a jab at our guys but this is why lawyers should be negotiating our contracts not pilots that go to 5 days of ALPA training.
Do you know any pilots who are also lawyers in our pilot group? There is a reason ALPA sends lawyers to help out. We negotiate collectively as a pilot group, not lawyer to lawyer. I think this comment is a little disengenous. Hindsight is always 20/20, but magagmeny here has shown their true colors for a while so as individuals I think they can be held accountable for believing that magagment was acting in “Good faith.”
03-16-2019, 11:56 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
You guys realize our contract favors the senior pilot group. Hence who our JPWG was made up of. They f$&@ed everyone else to get their raise. Their bonus. They don’t bid reserve. What do they care about it? Another corrupt selfish group. Once the TRO came out. Everyone should’ve stepped down for a whole new group, they were all compromised even more so after that. Just sayin’
03-16-2019, 01:54 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You guys realize our contract favors the senior pilot group. Hence who our JPWG was made up of. They f$&@ed everyone else to get their raise. Their bonus. They don’t bid reserve. What do they care about it? Another corrupt selfish group. Once the TRO came out. Everyone should’ve stepped down for a whole new group, they were all compromised even more so after that. Just sayin’
03-16-2019, 04:56 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 211
Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You guys realize our contract favors the senior pilot group. Hence who our JPWG was made up of. They f$&@ed everyone else to get their raise. Their bonus. They don’t bid reserve. What do they care about it? Another corrupt selfish group. Once the TRO came out. Everyone should’ve stepped down for a whole new group, they were all compromised even more so after that. Just sayin’
Aaaannnd you realize that that senior group you mention is NOT the majority, right??
It wasn’t the negotiating committee that formed the majority required to vote the contract in.....
I doubt it happens very often that the majority is made up of the juniority- but was certainly the case this time.
Careful where you place blame.
03-16-2019, 05:59 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 11
Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
You guys realize our contract favors the senior pilot group. Hence who our JPWG was made up of. They f$&@ed everyone else to get their raise. Their bonus. They don’t bid reserve. What do they care about it? Another corrupt selfish group. Once the TRO came out. Everyone should’ve stepped down for a whole new group, they were all compromised even more so after that. Just sayin’
The year 3-8 captains were the ones that passed this deal. SG1159 is correct in stating "juniority" ruled. Also, many FOs gladly said yes. They threw a little money at them and they gave in.
The company deserves credit for changing the dynamics of this group. They hired a bunch of pro-growth, submissive candidates that voted in a sub-par, low tier deal.
The truth hurts.
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