Think we are on the same side here. My point was backpacks really aren’t a “professionalism” issue.

Yes, I did. Spirit pulls most of our ranks from the regional and corporate world which unfortunately lacks some refinement. Sufficient company emails and the aforementioned ALPA Twitter pic serve as my proof. Our FA's and GSA's were subjected to the Disney Institute 3S (or was it 4S?) training and I think it's high time for our pilot group to receive a Professionalism 101 course. Too few here were subjected to a review or promotion board and could use some adulting assistance.

We should be blowing up that Instagram post. We are dues paying alpa pilots and our money is just as green.

If you want an FO to wear a blazer, maybe negotiate a uniform for new hires. You can’t expect a guy to wear something he doesn’t even have...

I have to agree with a lot he says...
Some, not all of our group needs to clean up the “uniform”.

spent several minutes trying to think of something witty to say to you. Failed. So I’ll just say this...

Lack refinement? Too few? Oh, come off it, general.

Feel free to disagree. But ALPA just cropped our guy out of a pic and both the union and the company are filling our inboxes with emails about uniform compliance and dressing the part of an airline pilot. We have no less responsibility than any other crews and we should take a little pride in our profession and our appearance.

This is going to turn into civilian vs military thread now

No, it isn't. It's a discussion about professionalism, personal appearance, and pride in ones self, coworkers, and profession. Have some respect for the position of trust that we're in and for the men and women who came before us. We're in the top 10% of income earners and are entrusted with millions of dollars in equipment and liability. Not to mention the lives that we carry in our hands. Shining shoes and pressing some clothes shouldn't be a major hurdle to cross.

And if you're representing our airline and our pilot group to Congress then you'd damn well better look the part. A blazer is a whopping $120 and if ALPA, or SPA, or the individual can't scrape that together then we need to send someone else instead.

It is very sad how some pilots dress. We have pilots at F9 that I swear slept in their uniform and simply rolled out of bed. People wearing their own tides, sneakers, etc. I often joke that our uniform is a combination of Columbia, north face and a little Patagonia.

Take a little pride in your appearance. It is very simple to do and no need to argue mil vs civilian, but rather professionalism. You are responsible for a multimillion dollar aircraft and hundreds of lives. Take a little pride on what you have accomplished.