Our deal on bonus checks is so sweet...it’s pretty much unheard of.

Bonus or Bone-us?
Bonus, no
Bone-us, yes, regularly.

Thank you. For trivia, SAVE stock has outperformed all the major airline stock for the last year or two. Wall Street seems to like Spirit....

Not this week.

meh, it’ll recover.

Yep. In fact its not a bad time to load up on some.

sadly still on first year pay.

Investment advice from pilots is probably a really bad idea. That being said, when you look at the earnings report it definitely looks like the Street overreacted with the 10% drop and a buying opportunity exists.

Spirit stock always seems to drop after earnings, even when they beat estimates, it drops.

But oh yes, love the crew van chatter of "Yeah, so I bought Spirit at $XXX and made $XXX of it." All the financial wizards we fly with, yet I think it was something like 20% of pilots never participated in our 401k match program.

Or like the guy I was on the van with sometime around December 15th who had sold all his stock retirement investments. Every penny. He was sick of watching it go down. I only hope he bought it back on the 24th. :eek:

That is not unique to Spirit though. Amazon Q4 2018 was positive but the stock still dropped. It's just the nature of the beast. If the fed chairman blinks the wrong way investors get spooked and the market turns red. It's just the way that game is played.

My last regional said new bases. More planes. And united flow through. None of that happened and now they are out of business. RIP. Anyone whose flown 2001 or 2008 knows that the music can stop at ANY time. Will spirit continue to grow. 99% yes. But we have no order yet. Promises of a golden future are only heeded by the ignorant (been binging GoT and I start to talk like it lol) Go with the now. Not with the “maybe in a few years”. Just my .02. I fell for the regional BS hook,line, sinker. I try to educate people with my errors :)

Look, I covered the economy melting down in the possibilities. As well as M/A. But short of that it’s pretty certain that more planes are coming and borderline asinine to act as though they won’t.

FlyBoy doesnt seem to understand the difference between a regional airline who is hoping to get more planes from their mainline overlords vs a major airline the controls the acquisition of more planes, needed for planned growth.

Why is anyone surprised that Spirit is going to order these planes on their terms, when they have the right price? The did it with us, the pilots on our contract, and they are doing it again with aircraft manufacturers.

Spirit Fleet Plan now shows 180 aircraft at the end of 2021 instead of the 177 that it showed last week.

Fleet Plan - Spirit Airlines, Inc. ? IR Site

FYI, since 2015, our Fleet Plan has increased from 144 to 180 without placing a single order. Spirit will grow. A LOT.

Absolutely agree, though this might not go over so well with the yellow kool-aid drinkers on here. I fell for it in the beginning of 2001 as well.

You literally cry and complain on every single post.

This isnt a Kool Aid thing, its a "how do I view my life and decisions" thing.

God help me if I wake up every morning with a vicious negative itch that I need scratched by the forums everyday.

Enjoy your family, your health, and your career. I guarantee you it isnt a bad as you like to obsess over.

Amen... you naysayers forget... spirit HAS to keep shareholders and the board happy... that only happens by maintaining the 15-18% growth model year after year for the foreseeable future...take a deep breath... go drink a beer and relax...an order is coming... they are neurotic about buying EVERYTHING from office supplies to airframes below market value...

Spirit vs Frontier... Really?....

Here is the latest color via Uncle Ted from the 1Q:

"With all of that, the growth opportunity still looks great. And, yes, we are in the process of evaluating a fleet order. And in doing so, trying to arrive at what we think the appropriate growth rate is over the longer term. For now, we've been targeting around mid-teens. But we've always said that, over time, that will round as the airline gets bigger."

"And I think the right way to think about this fleet opportunity for us is flexibility. What we want to be able to do with the manufacturers and with our financing partners is to design a fleet strategy that gives us ultimate flexibility to grow at rates consistent with the market opportunity. And so, in micro flashes of either a recession or a downturn of whatever that might be, we want to be able to adjust. And in times of more robust growth, we want to be able to deliver. And I think what we've heard based on the preliminary and secondary feedback as we're well into this process is we're going to do that. We're going to get that flexibility in a way that we think helps us going forward, which I think is key. And it allows us to be dynamic in the view of the growth rate over the next 5 to 10 years."

Spirit or Frontier
 

Thanks but I don’t believe I ever said this was the worst place to work because I know it’s not. I also don’t believe it’s the best. But I also don’t think it’s fair to tell people to come here based on an aircraft order that hasn’t been placed.



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If someone gets hired here today, and the company doesn’t place another order, that new hire who doesn’t “have an upgrade” is the least of the problems.

If this airline doesn’t order more planes, this airline will start to die, and even guys already in the left seat will have career issues. It’s no secret they need more planes to make the business work long term, they have always said that.

Planes are coming. If not, we are all in trouble.

This.

Except it's not a secret. If you don't understand it, you either won't get the interview or won't get the CJO. Or you might get the CJO but won't survive training.

New airplanes, "big boy contract", no hats.

That made me LOL.

Can we guess which pilots have the "big boy contract" and which one doesn't?

If you ever wanted an image to sum up how we are looked at by Legacy carriers...this is it

Alpa just reposted the photo, cropped the NK guy out. Wow

Other than him looking like a dork, the only difference is a hat and blazer, which most don’t want anyways. So what’s the point.

Our guy showing up without a jacket isn't professional nor classy. We need to add an additional day of training on how to 'adult' in the dressing department.

Clearly you missed the entire point if all you want to say is "looking like a dork."

If you can't understand why this look is bad, or why ALPA cropped him from the photo https://www.instagram.com/we_are_alpa/?hl=en (after numerous emails from pilots) and reposted without him, you will never get it.

Our reps should be ashamed!!

What look? The no hat or jacket? That’s the only difference I see. Is that what you are saying? We should get those? Because last I checked everyone’s getting hard over the north face looking trash

No jacket or hat but our boy has the biggest watch!

Odds it has an E6B dial on it?

His body language kind of says that

Wearing a blazer would’ve helped. He could’ve borrowed one or something. Paper airplane tie??!!! He sums up the professionalism some of our pilot group represents. It’s embarrassing.

Wings on his shirt or a homemade Spirit bomber jacket would’ve topped it off!

For the guys defending the way our rep looks, you are clearly the minority. He might be within Spirit’s uniform compliance (debatable with that tie), but ALPA cropped him out for a good reason. He looks like a slob compared to the other Reps in the photo. Our image matters. There’s a reason why we are suppose to wear professional uniforms and not our cargo shorts and white nike monarchs.

Give the guy a break. I'm sure it's not easy being Napoleon Dynamite's older brother...

LMAO!! Come one, he’s been chatting with babes online for 4 hours!

That picture says it all right there. Pathetic, we are an embarrassment.

😂. I’m far from a uniform police nazi but c’mon, if we don’t want to be treated like low tier ulcc pilots, maybe we should try looking a little more professional. And I’m not referring to wearing the hat, just throw on a nice jacket that wasn’t a hand me down from your grandpa