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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2887030)
Just and FYI, there are situations where you are going to do the trip whether you take the MUP or not it’s just a matter of whether they are going to delay the flight or not. But in a lot of situations these days where they are a bit more concerned about performance metrics, not taking the MUP means it goes out to x/y for someone and paid at 200% for the whole trip while you stay home instead of an extra 1.5hrs per duty period for you.
Do what you want just sayin. |
I never understand why people tell first year reserves to do stuff to help out the other pilots. Usually it’s the same guys saying we don’t need to waste negotiating capitol on new hires. Who here is going to throw their money to the person making garbage new hire pay?
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
(Post 2887180)
I never understand why people tell first year reserves to do stuff to help out the other pilots. Usually it’s the same guys saying we don’t need to waste negotiating capitol on new hires. Who here is going to throw their money to the person making garbage new hire pay?
“Don’t take that reserve assignment for 6 hours extra pay. Instead don’t take it and buy 3 more hotels: but sleep well knowing a senior FO got an X list call over it. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2887187)
Haha. Yup
“Don’t take that reserve assignment for 6 hours extra pay. Instead don’t take it and buy 3 more hotels: but sleep well knowing a senior FO got an X list call over it. TBF, Quo specifically said "do what you want", not "don't touch my X-list" |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2887194)
TBF, Quo specifically said "do what you want", not "don't touch my X-list"
What he said was “But in a lot of situations these days where they are a bit more concerned about performance metrics, not taking the MUP means it goes out to x/y for someone and paid at 200% for the whole trip while you stay home instead of an extra 1.5hrs per duty period for you.” Basically sounds like “stay home, not worth it for MUP, let someone get premium pay” To which 3 of us said that kind of thinking is better suited for Captains making decent cash even below guarantee vs a new hire who will need that MUP in many situations. A first year guy who commutes to base for a hotel, sitting reserve, should and probably will jump all over a reserve trip with MUP and the savings of the crash pad hotel, and good for them if they get it. Nowhere should this guy think “yeah, I’ll pass to allow someone else to get premium pay”. That’s ridiculous |
I understand the commuting issue.
And yeah I do think 1.5 hrs per duty period is a pittance sometimes leads to less x/y but not always. Sometimes you are going to do the trip anyway and there isn’t much way to tell what their plan is. So like I said do what you want as long as it’s contractually legal. I do hear a lot from FOs that there is little open time to trade with and no premium pay (month dependents obviously) but MUP and gobbling up straight pay, even 10hr three days are reasons why. All compliant so have at it. And as someone that bids rsv a lot I say go for it so I can get assigned less trips. It’s just playing the short game instead of the long if yearly earnings is the goal. |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2887290)
I understand the commuting issue.
And yeah I do think 1.5 hrs per duty period is a pittance sometimes leads to less x/y but not always. Sometimes you are going to do the trip anyway and there isn’t much way to tell what their plan is. So like I said do what you want as long as it’s contractually legal. I do hear a lot from FOs that there is little open time to trade with and no premium pay (month dependents obviously) but MUP and gobbling up straight pay, even 10hr three days are reasons why. All compliant so have at it. And as someone that bids rsv a lot I say go for it so I can get assigned less trips. It’s just playing the short game instead of the long if yearly earnings is the goal. |
I’m loving the convo. But what the frig does MUP mean?
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
(Post 2887315)
What other game is there if you can't get off of rsv?
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
(Post 2887317)
I’m loving the convo. But what the frig does MUP mean?
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