Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2887336)

If a reserve pilot is short called, they have three hours from the time of the notification. Occasionally there is an operational need for the flight to go out on time, or not be delayed further by a reserve pilot taking their “full 3”, so at their discretion scheduling can offer Move Up Pay, which is 1.5 hours per each duty period in the trip. However in accepting the pay, the pilot must be able to make the earlier report time.

The advantage for a reserve pilot is that this 1.5 hours (as much as 6 on a four day) goes “on top” of reserve guarantee.

So one poster here is saying if a reserve pilot were to say “no” to a move up pay assignment, and the company was desperate for the flight to go out, they could potentially call a line pilot on their day off and offer them premium pay (200%)

I guess his rationale being that collectively we should fleece the company for maximum dollars by sacrificing your individual opportunity to fly it for less money.. or maybe that new guys should learn to play ball and let senior guys make money because one day it will be their turn.. personally I would never begrudge any new hire from flying a reserve assignment for extra money.

In reality scheduling would probably call another reserve pilot who would gladly take the trip anyways, you have no way to know what their next move is.

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2887348)

Yeah, doesnt make much sense...

"Hi Reserve Pilot, can you make it here in 2 hours?"

"Sorry, ill require my full 3"

"Ok, ill hang up with you and process the Y list in order to try and find someone to pick up the phone and get here in....wait....thats right, Y list gets the full 3 hours report time too"


They will either pay the MUP or move to the next reserve pilot, which honestly would sound like a incorrect assignment. "Hi, we are tagging you with the trip because the junior guy with the same number of RAPs wants MUP and we wont pay it"

In the end 99.9999% of the time they will pay the MUP or delay the flight.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2887431)

A few corrections.

Any pilot is available for x/y not jus line pilots. You just have to be off for the trip they are trying to cover and be on the list.

Also, while yes x/y is generally in seniority order if that senior pilot has dropped down the list due to xy credit or they have a conflict (most likely) it goes to more junior guys. Many lineholders have conflicts because they cannot help themselves from easy straight pay or moving schedule around below 4days off which creates conflict

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2887257)

Well if accuracy is what you seek, than at least acknowledge that nobody said “don’t touch my X list” in any post

What he said was “But in a lot of situations these days where they are a bit more concerned about performance metrics, not taking the MUP means it goes out to x/y for someone and paid at 200% for the whole trip while you stay home instead of an extra 1.5hrs per duty period for you.”

Basically sounds like “stay home, not worth it for MUP, let someone get premium pay”