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Rmk1991 10-10-2019 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by amberdash (Post 2901394)
Figured this might be the best place to ask.

I interview on October 25 and from reading previous replies on the forum it sounds like if all goes well I could receive a job offer 1-2 weeks after the interview with a class date 1-2 months out. That puts a class date right around Jan 2020. Is it possible to push the class date? And if so how far out does Spirit allow the class date to be pushed? A change in my plans means I won't be able to take a class date until Spring 2020 now, advice from you all would be appreciated. Push the interview? Interview then defer the class date? Or just talk to the recruiter before the interview and ask for their advice?

After you get the CJO if you are successful, you'll get a few links/paperwork packets. I've sent all mine in, but I believe it said somewhere on there that you have up to 120 days to accept a class date. If you go beyond that, it said you may have to re-interview. That could be wrong but that's what is in my head.

week 10-12-2019 08:32 PM

Just want to clarify the trip rig....

So it’s 3.5:1. That means you must be paid 6.85 hours of credit per 24 hours away from base... is that correct? That seems too good to possibly be true. So a 4-day trip is 27+ hours of credit? And you only need to hit 72/month?

LandGreen 10-12-2019 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by week (Post 2903402)
Just want to clarify the trip rig....

So it’s 3.5:1. That means you must be paid 6.85 hours of credit per 24 hours away from base... is that correct? That seems too good to possibly be true. So a 4-day trip is 27+ hours of credit? And you only need to hit 72/month?


Yes your understanding of that duty rig is correct. 6.85 for 24 hours away from base.

However a 4 day will very rarely, if ever, be 96 hours away from base (which is what you used for calculation).
Typical TAFB for a 4 day will range between 65 hours - 85 hours. Most 4 days will credit 20 hours plus or minus a couple depending on base, seniority, and trip preferences.

symbian simian 10-13-2019 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 2903402)
Just want to clarify the trip rig....

So it’s 3.5:1. That means you must be paid 6.85 hours of credit per 24 hours away from base... is that correct? That seems too good to possibly be true. So a 4-day trip is 27+ hours of credit? And you only need to hit 72/month?

Like Landgreen said, it's per hour, not per day. Depending on base, you will credit block or rig or extra credit. Some of trips I bid in LAS are 4-day, 4 legs total, 10pm check in, 10am check out, so 58hr TAFB, 12hr block, 20 hour credit, because 3 duties and a long layover (extra day pay for 24hr+ hotel).

elmetal 10-13-2019 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2903497)
Like Landgreen said, it's per hour, not per day. Depending on base, you will credit block or rig or extra credit. Some of trips I bid in LAS are 4-day, 4 legs total, 10pm check in, 10am check out, so 58hr TAFB, 12hr block, 20 hour credit, because 3 duties and a long layover (extra day pay for 24hr+ hotel).

10am checkouts in Vegas are not that common. don't sell a dream.

symbian simian 10-13-2019 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2903555)
10am checkouts in Vegas are not that common. don't sell a dream.

I said “some”, not selling anything, they went junior because of red-eye, just giving an example of how you can’t jus look at block/TAFB.

Qotsaautopilot 10-13-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 2903402)
Just want to clarify the trip rig....

So it’s 3.5:1. That means you must be paid 6.85 hours of credit per 24 hours away from base... is that correct? That seems too good to possibly be true. So a 4-day trip is 27+ hours of credit? And you only need to hit 72/month?

The post below you explained it and it’s pretty much an industry standard trip rig. Frontier is worse. Everyone else has calendar day average and we have duty period which is below industry.

I’d say hard bock, the trip rig, and duty period average, are about evenly split in our pairings on which of the three is going to pay more.

maximus101100 10-15-2019 09:40 AM

10 October interview
 
Has anyone received class dates from this interview?

KCJake 10-15-2019 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by maximus101100 (Post 2905477)
Has anyone received class dates from this interview?

They typically call between five to eight days with an offer. The class date offer can be a few weeks after that.

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-15-2019 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by maximus101100 (Post 2905477)
Has anyone received class dates from this interview?

You should have gotten a call today. Tomorrow at latest

bananapilot 10-15-2019 08:58 PM

My friend that I just helped get hired took a December 5th class date I believe.

flygal7 10-16-2019 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by maximus101100 (Post 2905477)
Has anyone received class dates from this interview?

Has anyone been called with a job offer from this interview class? I'm still holding my breath, cause I'm not counting the weekend days and Columbus Day as part of the 5-8 days lol.

Cefiro 10-16-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by flygal7 (Post 2906424)
Has anyone been called with a job offer from this interview class? I'm still holding my breath, cause I'm not counting the weekend days and Columbus Day as part of the 5-8 days lol.

As long as you don’t get an email, you’re still in the hunt. Think it took about 2 weeks for me to get called.

flygal7 10-16-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Cefiro (Post 2906449)
As long as you don’t get an email, you’re still in the hunt. Think it took about 2 weeks for me to get called.

2 weeks?! They told us appx 5 days. When did you interview?

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-18-2019 07:16 PM

So in the interview, they actually ask what we think when we see a big yellow airplane. Is their a back story to yellow? is it a color that Spirit just goes with in their branding? What is the correlation between Spirit and yellow?

GWY320 10-18-2019 07:27 PM

It was cheap to paint the airplane with only two colors.

FNGFO 10-18-2019 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2908480)
So in the interview, they actually ask what we think when we see a big yellow airplane. Is their a back story to yellow? is it a color that Spirit just goes with in their branding? What is the correlation between Spirit and yellow?

Bright yellow paint equals free advertising and brand recognition. ULCC is all about cutting out the frills and items that cost extra. In this case advertising dollars.

When’s the last time you saw a tv ad for Spirit?

Omniscient 10-18-2019 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2908494)
Bright yellow paint equals free advertising and brand recognition. ULCC is all about cutting out the frills and items that cost extra. In this case advertising dollars.

When’s the last time you saw a tv ad for Spirit?

Pretty much it. The yellow plane is a great litmus test for applicants. You either get it and like it or you don’t. As far as there being a history; none. Just the most current branding when they rolled out the Bare Fare almost 5 years ago.

Me personally, l love the yellow

SSlow 10-18-2019 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2908480)
So in the interview, they actually ask what we think when we see a big yellow airplane. Is their a back story to yellow? is it a color that Spirit just goes with in their branding? What is the correlation between Spirit and yellow?

It is not exactly well known, but Wiz Khalifa owns the controlling interest in the company. Mention that in the interview and you're pretty much guaranteed the job!

"Black stripes, yellow paint, them #$&@#% scared of it but them hoes ain't..."

symbian simian 10-19-2019 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2908519)
It is not exactly well known, but Wiz Khalifa owns the controlling interest in the company. Mention that in the interview and you're pretty much guaranteed the job!

"Black stripes, yellow paint, them #$&@#% scared of it but them hoes ain't..."

I thought it was Mia.....

MCDUmanipulator 10-19-2019 05:00 AM

Because it stands out from the rest of the pack. People will say, who’s that bright yellow plane? Gets people talking about spirit.

sgt98c 10-19-2019 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2908480)
So in the interview, they actually ask what we think when we see a big yellow airplane. Is their a back story to yellow? is it a color that Spirit just goes with in their branding? What is the correlation between Spirit and yellow?

The market research was already done...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/business/fl-spirit-copying-scoot-20150421-story.html%3foutputType=amp

Poser765 10-19-2019 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2908575)
I thought it was Mia.....

less money, more mangled boob jobs?

Flightcap 10-19-2019 05:08 AM

Story told by JB about how the color was chosen: "We got together in a board room with a bunch of different models sporting different paint jobs. This yellow one was really the oddball out of all of them. After going back and forth on the good and bad of each for nearly an hour someone said, 'Okay. On the count of three everyone point to the one you like the most.' Every single person pointed at the yellow one! And that's how the paint job was chosen."

The yellow paint, like it or leave it, is a huge advertisement. Most ramps are a sea of red, white, and blue. Yellow airplanes stick out and people remember the name by the color. We spend almost nothing on advertisement. A Facebook account manager and that's about it.

Halon1211 10-19-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2908494)
When’s the last time you saw a tv ad for Spirit?

Family Guy, twice actually. (Free advertising admittedly)

Technically, if you think about it Quagmire flies for Spirit Airlines. Peter said so at the end of one particular episode.

Halon1211 10-19-2019 06:17 PM

And on Jimmy Fallon.

Omniscient 10-19-2019 06:22 PM

Let’s not forget.

https://youtu.be/rflnUcNxe_M


For some of the newer guys here

Tranquility 10-19-2019 06:59 PM

I’ll never own a yellow car, or a Miata for that matter...

But, yellow on a airplane, somehow works!

phly 10-20-2019 04:56 AM

Sorry for the slight thread drift guys, but I have a question which I didn't think it warranted a new post.

I am in the position where I'm very unattached to my location and can choose to live anywhere I want for the long term. Currently in ORD but I don't want to buy property in Chicago.

Would it be dumb to choose to commute in exchange for a place I like?

In the interview they explained the X and Y list for open time pickups. Is it possible to still be able to make some extra money on the Y list in a heavily serviced destination?

Would you say that I am crazy for even considering the idea of choosing to commute?

gringo 10-20-2019 05:03 AM

Trevor Noah offers us the occasional free advertisement, and it’s awesome.

Qotsaautopilot 10-20-2019 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 2909191)
Sorry for the slight thread drift guys, but I have a question which I didn't think it warranted a new post.

I am in the position where I'm very unattached to my location and can choose to live anywhere I want for the long term. Currently in ORD but I don't want to buy property in Chicago.

Would it be dumb to choose to commute in exchange for a place I like?

In the interview they explained the X and Y list for open time pickups. Is it possible to still be able to make some extra money on the Y list in a heavily serviced destination?

Would you say that I am crazy for even considering the idea of choosing to commute?

Y list no unless you can be in a spirit city in less than 3hrs. X list maybe. Don’t commute if you don’t have to. So many more reasons than x/y

onedolla 10-20-2019 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 2909191)
Sorry for the slight thread drift guys, but I have a question which I didn't think it warranted a new post.

I am in the position where I'm very unattached to my location and can choose to live anywhere I want for the long term. Currently in ORD but I don't want to buy property in Chicago.

Would it be dumb to choose to commute in exchange for a place I like?

In the interview they explained the X and Y list for open time pickups. Is it possible to still be able to make some extra money on the Y list in a heavily serviced destination?

Would you say that I am crazy for even considering the idea of choosing to commute?

And to follow up on what Qotsa said, X/Y is best only when you have done none of it in the previous year (Resets yearly at 0000 01Jan). As soon as you start getting some premium credit under your belt, you move further down the list and are less likely to be called (unless you're somehow the only person on the list).

Also, choosing to Y list out of a destination rather than a base isn't going to yield you too much since you're basically banking on things like weather, meltdowns, fatigue calls, etc (the uncommon things) in order to get that call. If that's your plan, don't set yourself up for failure by expecting calls just because it's a heavily serviced city. Making plans based on X/Y has always been a gamble, Destination Y only would be really tough to plan around if you want extra money.

CAirBear 10-20-2019 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 2909191)
Sorry for the slight thread drift guys, but I have a question which I didn't think it warranted a new post.

I am in the position where I'm very unattached to my location and can choose to live anywhere I want for the long term. Currently in ORD but I don't want to buy property in Chicago.

Would it be dumb to choose to commute in exchange for a place I like?

In the interview they explained the X and Y list for open time pickups. Is it possible to still be able to make some extra money on the Y list in a heavily serviced destination?

Would you say that I am crazy for even considering the idea of choosing to commute?

One of the greatest things about this job/career is you can live anywhere you want. Almost no other career you can do this at, outside of having a telecommuter/online position with a major company.

I commute and have ever since I started my airline career nearly a decade ago. Lots of people do. I grew up in a terrific city and it’s close to base and has 10-12 flights a day to work/home. It’s stupid easy and almost zero stress to/from.

I get so sick of people that try and shams commuters, like we are all morons for not living in base. GTFO here with that BS.

One year, at my regional, I actually moved and “lived in base”. Guess what? The city sucked, I had almost no friends (outside of the few at work) and after a couple months, guess what I did? I started commuting out on days off and having fun and a life again.

Live where you want. Unless your truly living in the middle of nowhere, it’s not hard find flights to your domicile.

silver fleet 10-22-2019 12:16 AM

Coming up on 3 weeks of “app under review”.... still normal for industry climate with 9k TT, 3K TPIC, 18 years 121 and current 121PIC,??

johnvito 10-22-2019 03:58 AM

Do you have any internal letters of recommendation or did you go to a Meet the Chiefs event recently? If not, then yes that’s normal.

silver fleet 10-22-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by johnvito (Post 2910238)
Do you have any internal letters of recommendation or did you go to a Meet the Chiefs event recently? If not, then yes that’s normal.

Many thanks for the input John. I do have an internal. I’ll just continue to be patient. Again, thanks...

johnvito 10-22-2019 02:21 PM

Best of luck to you! I had an internal, but had to go to a job fair to get things moving. I don’t know if that’s still the case.

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-22-2019 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by silver fleet (Post 2910214)
Coming up on 3 weeks of “app under review”.... still normal for industry climate with 9k TT, 3K TPIC, 18 years 121 and current 121PIC,??

I went to one single OBAP and was hired the very next month

93Sierra 10-22-2019 08:20 PM

I’m in an upcoming class, and would welcome any help/reach outs. The different bold items in the com are confusing me for each n number. Any help is appreciated

Halon1211 10-22-2019 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 2910847)
I’m in an upcoming class, and would welcome any help/reach outs. The different bold items in the com are confusing me for each n number. Any help is appreciated

Just know the what type of plane it’s for. When it list those tail numbers just translate it into aircraft type: A319/A320/A320NEO/A321. When you take your oral they will just ask for the plane type.

In the front of the COM it will tell you what n numbers belong to what type of plane.


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