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Noworkallplay 11-07-2019 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2920060)
So you say for your pay...

$350k this year at $265/hr

Thats 1320 credit hours/12 so 110 credit hours a month average.

You're working your little purple tail off.

As I stated in my post I work extra and live in base. I didn’t try to hide it and make up some fabricated story of only working half the month every month. I was honest in what our average or normal is. THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS BACK AND FORTH. We have WB instructor pilots doing 700k but they are working for it probably 20-22 days a month in the training center.

Omniscient 11-07-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2920066)
As I stated in my post I work extra and live in base. I didn’t try to hide it and make up some fabricated story of only working half the month every month. I was honest in what our average or normal is. THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS BACK AND FORTH. We have WB instructor pilots doing 700k but they are working for it probably 20-22 days a month in the training center.

Should't your user name be "AllWorkNoPlay" with all that extra flying you're doing...kind of a misnomer, dont you think?

What are you overcompensating for? You accuse everyone on here for hiding the truth, what are you hiding? Because with the amount you work, haha....you sure as heck aint "no work, all play"..and I know that because im omniscient

Silver02ex 11-07-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2920059)
Thanks for that info. I more than understand how premium pay works and supply and demand during irregular ops. We all have this including us purple folk. So if you drop regular flying the premium trip can’t touch the original footprint. So a lot of things would have to line up as a previous Spirit pilot poster stated. You would have to do this month after month. Plus it’s not the norm it was just the past year. That’s my whole point bubba.

If you understand it then why is it so hard to believe that MANY of our 5th year CA are making $250K without trying hard. Whatever 200% trips we take can go within the original footprint of the trip dropped (there is no such thing as "footprint" where the 200% trip is placed). What's not normal is an instructor that's crediting 280+ each month this summer.

tonsterboy5 11-07-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2919788)
My $.02, take it or leave it. But with few exceptions this is reality.

Basing a career move on first year pay is kind of dumb. Look at career earnings instead and tighten your belt first year.

except this isn’t a first year move to a new career, new people are going to spirit after 5-10 years of paid flying experience. its not like the 7 year accountant moves to a new firm and starts at year one pay, or the guy who worked his way up to a management position at one company will likely start at a similar or higher position at his new company. Flying is the one job where no matter your level of experience or skills possess every starts at every company the same. If a company wants to be a top tier company they need to start people at pay rate near or above where they are pulling them from. (Regionals)

Omniscient 11-07-2019 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2920070)
If a company wants to be a top tier company they need to start people at pay rate near or above where they are pulling them from. (Regionals)

Couldn't agree more...the COMPANY needs to start them higher. Glad we can agree on that.

Noworkallplay 11-07-2019 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2920068)
Should't your user name be "AllWorkNoPlay" with all that extra flying you're doing...kind of a misnomer, dont you think?

What are you overcompensating for? You accuse everyone on here for hiding the truth, what are you hiding? Because with the amount you work, haha....you sure as heck aint "no work, all play"..and I know that because im omniscient

Now calm down sparky! I sit R24 reserve 15 days a month but never get called. When I do it’s with a 24 hr lead time. I then get draft on top of that. We also have vacation buy back. I still get my vacation by bidding around it since we have hard line bidding. So believe me the old uniform builds dust quit often. I won’t break 100 hrs of block this year.

Thanks for the correction on the ability to pick up over the original footprint but as I stated with the math it still makes it tough and you are going to work extra every couple months.

Tranquility 11-07-2019 07:19 PM

Are we going to get into d*ck measuring contests?? Let’s just all agree that Miatas are NOT sports cars....

Noworkallplay 11-07-2019 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2920081)
Are we going to get into d*ck measuring contests?? Let’s just all agree that Miatas are NOT sports cars....

I can drink to that. Honestly wasn't my intention I was just wanting to make sure a prospective new hire was getting good gouge. Im going back to where I belong, the bar!!

GWY320 11-07-2019 07:39 PM

New hire pay on reserve
 
Thank you guys for working so hard. 15 off is too few. 20-22 off is more like it....even better is 25/26.

symbian simian 11-07-2019 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2920083)
I can drink to that. Honestly wasn't my intention I was just wanting to make sure a prospective new hire was getting good gouge. Im going back to where I belong, the bar!!

You mean you were saying all this without being in the bar?


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