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New hire pay on reserve
What are those paychecks looking like year one on reserve?
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Expect around $41k during your 1st year. That's assuming 3 months at training pay & 9 months at minimum guarantee with 2% A321 override. You might be able to make more if you put yourself on premium flying list for flying on your day off. But if you're trying to budget around your paycheck it is best to just assume min pay as other pay is not guaranteed.
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Said it before and I’ll say it again, treating new guys (and gals) like cr@p with pay barely half (or less) of what most were making as a regional captain is NOT the way to build pilot group unity. Yeah, yeah, I know that it’s even worse at UPS. So what?
If you want quality future coworkers in these days of declining pilot availability, easing the transition to the big leagues needs to be a priority for every pilot group, not just for management. Even if it costs a little negotiating capital. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2915554)
Said it before and I’ll say it again, treating new guys (and gals) like cr@p with pay barely half (or less) of what most were making as a regional captain is NOT the way to build pilot group unity. Yeah, yeah, I know that it’s even worse at UPS. So what?
If you want quality future coworkers in these days of declining pilot availability, easing the transition to the big leagues needs to be a priority for every pilot group, not just for management. Even if it costs a little negotiating capital. |
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Hey Clubber, whats your prediction of life on first year reserve?
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It's a great time to get divorced if you're marriage just isn't working out. Ask me how I know...
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Originally Posted by Spectre186
(Post 2915577)
I was really interested in Spirit, since I live in Las Vegas, but I’m single income with a family. There’s no way I could make 42k work for my first year!
You’ll break $100k easy your second year and by year three, seeing you live in base and are willing to be flexible, you can easily be north of $150k. I was also single income with kids. I ended up financing my first year mostly on credit. And that was on the old contract. I don’t think I made much more than $30k. In South Florida. Yes it sucked, but long term it made sense. That was 5 years ago. My income is now well north of $250k, double anything I would have dreamed of at my previous employer... Your kids will survive For a year on Ramen and Mac n Cheese no problem. It’ll go by fast. |
Originally Posted by gringo
(Post 2915710)
Way to miss the forest for the trees.
You’ll break $100k easy your second year and by year three, seeing you live in base and are willing to be flexible, you can easily be north of $150k. I was also single income with kids. I ended up financing my first year mostly on credit. And that was on the old contract. I don’t think I made much more than $30k. In South Florida. Yes it sucked, but long term it made sense. That was 5 years ago. My income is now well north of $250k, double anything I would have dreamed of at my previous employer... Your kids will survive For a year on Ramen and Mac n Cheese no problem. It’ll go by fast. I financed my first year on savings. And was getting back to even by year 2 (old contract). Whether or not first year pay should be higher this contract is another topic. But you’re completely right that although first year will hurt, the payoff has been excellent. Dare I say “in my day it was $38/hr” |
Originally Posted by Spectre186
(Post 2915577)
I was really interested in Spirit, since I live in Las Vegas, but I’m single income with a family. There’s no way I could make 42k work for my first year!
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2915714)
You have to laugh when you have an RJ CA on your plane tell you “I would come to Spirit, but it’s too much of a drop for me in pay”. Meanwhile he is making $72/hr as an RJ CA.
I financed my first year on savings. And was getting back to even by year 2 (old contract). Whether or not first year pay should be higher this contract is another topic. But you’re completely right that although first year will hurt, the payoff has been excellent. Dare I say “in my day it was $38/hr” |
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