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Balker 11-01-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2916122)
Yes, using this forum for what it is designed for: sharing/obtaining information.

Thanks

I still can’t decide if you're trolling, have a drinking issue, or you just don’t get this industry at all.

If it’s the first one, I hope you log those 1500 737 PIC hours at SWA quickly enough to make it to Norwegian Air Shuttle.

If it’s the latter and you didn’t mean to troll, well there’s a lot of new things that we will have to negotiate for in the ‘23 contract. I think the most complicated part will be implementing pay rates for widebodies. At this point seems like management has not a clear picture if it’s going to be the 350 or the 787. I personally think that the 330Neo is still on the table. Also, we would need to introduce augmented crew rules in the new contract, specially for those longer flights to Eastern Europe.

And there’s always the wild card. Maybe we buy someone before.
If that’s the case we’ll have to get a new contract altogether. I don’t know how we would blend Delta’s work rules with ours.... it’s going to be a tough one.

Jimdunbar 11-01-2019 09:08 AM

Improvement for reserves? That boat has sailed. They will never get any of that back. We’ll be lucky to not have airport reserve on the next contract

Keizer Soze 11-01-2019 09:39 AM

My prediction...

70% Yes
30% No

TrojanCMH 11-01-2019 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 2916245)
Improvement for reserves? That boat has sailed. They will never get any of that back. We’ll be lucky to not have airport reserve on the next contract



I disagree. They could fight for dropping outside in as long as the grid is green, possibly within a set time frame. Maybe allow picking up open time on days off so reserves could break guarantee. There’s a ton of things they could do to make reserve more palatable without opening it back up to checker-boarding.


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CLRtoPush 11-01-2019 06:07 PM

If Trump doesn’t win 2020, less then we have now. Although, some say a bad economy might bankrupt the legacies, so maybe we keep what we have plus a little extra after we pick up their pieces.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 11-01-2019 10:28 PM

"In the year two thousand and twenty three...."

An agreement will be reached whereas per diem is deemed no longer necessary as almond M&Ms return to unseat peanut M&Ms as the crew meal of choice for a 13-hour duty day.

TurboFan 11-02-2019 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2916549)
"In the year two thousand and twenty three...."



An agreement will be reached whereas per diem is deemed no longer necessary as almond M&Ms return to unseat peanut M&Ms as the crew meal of choice for a 13-hour duty day.



Fantastic Conan reference

Five Ohh 11-02-2019 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by CLRtoPush (Post 2916472)
If Trump doesn’t win 2020, less then we have now. Although, some say a bad economy might bankrupt the legacies, so maybe we keep what we have plus a little extra after we pick up their pieces.

Keep dreamin' kiddo. The legacies are too big to fail. And their lobbyists will get that bailout from Washington. Count on it.

dotslash 11-02-2019 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2916153)
well there’s a lot of new things that we will have to negotiate for in the ‘23 contract.

I think you make typo, maybe '27?


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