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BarrySeal 10-31-2019 05:55 PM

NEXT contract - any predictions ?
 
It appears the current contract is up in 2023.

Any pay raise, benefits, etc predictions for next contract ? Off-duty travel benefits with AA, UAL, DAL ?

Thank you

Tranquility 10-31-2019 06:18 PM

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FLYBOYMATTHEW 10-31-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2915948)
It appears the current contract is up in 2023.

Any pay raise, benefits, etc predictions for next contract ? Off-duty travel benefits with AA, UAL, DAL ?

Thank you

Collective bargaining agreements are never "up", they become amendable. To Spirit management, that means, how many more years can we get away with paying <insert labor group here> sub-industry standard pay to pad our bottom line. If history is any indication, no gains will come without a protracted fight. We could discuss ad nauseum what we are looking for in the next CBA or the best way forward to secure these gains, but this is not the appropriate place, and hopefully everyone here knows better than to negotiate in a public forum.

AFAIK, travel agreements are not generally negotiated into a CBA. As we continue to grow, hopefully we will be able to work out some long overdue mutually beneficial OAL travel agreements, but I would certainly not factor travel benefits into my decision to come here.

Flightcap 10-31-2019 08:15 PM

I want non rev benefits on Virgin Galactic. No voter until they get that in there.

RemoveB4flght 10-31-2019 10:25 PM

Seeing as we should have somewhere between three and four thousand pilots on property at that time, and a significant number of them will be sitting reserve on both seats for a while (maybe longer in certain bases) it may be wise to revisit Reserve quality of life.

Green Giant 10-31-2019 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2915948)
It appears the current contract is up in 2023.

Any pay raise, benefits, etc predictions for next contract ? Off-duty travel benefits with AA, UAL, DAL ?

Thank you

Starbucks Coffee on the plane, WIFI, paperless cockpit and more destinations served by Spirit. Those are my guesses.

TurboFan 11-01-2019 04:40 AM

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One million dollars!!!

TurboFan 11-01-2019 04:54 AM

BTW, the OP is the infamous “regional or Spirit” guy who posted a thread in the SWA forum a year ago asking which was the better career path - to go to Spirit or a regional as a stepping stone to SWA. So take this thread with a grain of salt.


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2683057)
Target airline = SWA


Need to "check the 121 box" on the resume, I am being told by a few trusted folks this is what I need and after maybe a year of that, SWA should consider my application as competitive. All other blocks checked, to include Turbine PIC and Check Airman. No B737 type.


With that said, does SWA care one way or the other if I am an FO at Envoy, or an FO at Spirit (ostensibly flying "big airliners") ?


BarrySeal 11-01-2019 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by TurboFan (Post 2916097)
BTW, the OP is the infamous “regional or Spirit” guy who posted a thread in the SWA forum a year ago asking which was the better career path - to go to Spirit or a regional as a stepping stone to SWA. So take this thread with a grain of salt.

Yes, using this forum for what it is designed for: sharing/obtaining information.

Thanks

TurboFan 11-01-2019 06:14 AM

NEXT contract - any predictions ?
 

Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2916122)
Yes, using this forum for what it is designed for: sharing/obtaining information.



Thanks



Well it’s been about a year since your post in the SWA forum (which you deservedly got pretty roasted for, btw), did you “check the 121 box” and get hired by your “target airline” Southwest?

I’m not sure why you’re now asking a somewhat bizarre question in the forum of a what you consider to be a stepping stone airline; especially a question that deals with an event 4 years from now. Surely you’ll be a skipper at SWA by then.

I wasn’t so lucky. I came to Spirit instead of taking one of those lucrative regional jobs and have been stuck here ever since. My target airline is Mesa. Maybe one day...I can still dream. [emoji3590]

In all honesty though, you are definitely NOT the type Spirit is interested in. Look elsewhere.


Originally Posted by BarrySeal (Post 2906633)
Spirit (and yes, Frontier) are good places to hang out while you wait for Delta to call. If they never call, you are a captain soon in 5 yrs or less and prob 200k+ flying new equipment.



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