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Halon1211 03-03-2020 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2988458)
Narrow bodies are significantly slower, and they don’t have crew rest facilities.

Spirit big front seats do not even meet the qualifications for a class 3 rest facility, so we couldn’t do augmented crew even if we wanted to.

Like I said, IF they get XLRs and IF they decide to do those type of routes as 2 pilot long range, fantastic. I don’t have any interest in doing them so one less person fighting against the bots in open time.

I’ll let you get back to spreading banal rumors.


Extra 19 mins in the air on a 8 hour flight...big whoop...you sound like a FA.

And you can go back to telling everyone you are too cool for this “international” flying because it is inferior to what you have done.

RemoveB4flght 03-03-2020 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2988475)
Extra 19 mins in the air on a 8 hour flight...big whoop...you sound like a FA.

based off your extensive experience?


And you can go back to telling everyone you are too cool for this “international” flying because it is inferior to what you have done.
Not superior nor inferior, just fatiguing.

Halon1211 03-03-2020 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2988492)
based off your extensive experience?



Not superior nor inferior, just fatiguing.


no based off of math...

If we crused at Mach .80 vs the Mach .84 example you gave on the 777 at a flying time of 8 hours roughly.

if my math is wrong, then please tell me your answer.

onedolla 03-03-2020 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2988494)
no based off of math...

If we crused at Mach .80 vs the Mach .84 example you gave on the 777 at a flying time of 8 hours roughly.

if my math is wrong, then please tell me your answer.

That’s a good one! I think like 99% of the rest of our flying you’ll be seeing CI 29-32 for that one. Witt doesn’t play around with his fuel savings.

RemoveB4flght 03-03-2020 11:03 AM

Except .84 is a normal cruise speed for the 777 and .80 is a high cost index for the 320 series.

The longest 2 man unaugmented crew flight permissible under 117 is 9 hours. The return flight from GIG to MIA is 8:50 on the 777. That’s all the math you need to know sport.

Anyways I’ve had enough debating a theoretical route on a plane we don’t have or have orders for.

gringo 03-03-2020 12:02 PM

I’d be happy just to get to Belem or Manaus... Azul’s already doing Belem in their 320NEOs...

Halon1211 03-03-2020 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2988617)
I’d be happy just to get to Belem or Manaus... Azul’s already doing Belem in their 320NEOs...

Give it a minute and removeB4flight will tell you why he won’t.

Halon1211 03-03-2020 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by onedolla (Post 2988566)
That’s a good one! I think like 99% of the rest of our flying you’ll be seeing CI 29-32 for that one. Witt doesn’t play around with his fuel savings.

you have never cruised at .80? Go home leg? Just want to get there? Make it sound like it is rare.

Halon1211 03-03-2020 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2988574)
Except .84 is a normal cruise speed for the 777 and .80 is a high cost index for the 320 series.

The longest 2 man unaugmented crew flight permissible under 117 is 9 hours. The return flight from GIG to MIA is 8:50 on the 777. That’s all the math you need to know sport.

Anyways I’ve had enough debating a theoretical route on a plane we don’t have or have orders for.

Sport, I wasn’t the one arguing with you if it that route was feasible or not that was the other person.

You just said that .84 vs what we cruise at is such a belly ache for you. And I’m just saying it’s really not much more.

flyjbh 03-03-2020 01:08 PM

Sport.... my grandpa used to call me that. [emoji23] we are getting 330’s or getting bought by Silver or SWA. That’s what I learned today on apc


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