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11-08-2021 | 02:52 PM
#201
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Joined: Sep 2014
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From: 60’s Tech, Right
Having 4 days off guaranteed if you commute on reserve is clutch. One would burn a partial day off, so having that 4th day is very nice.
11-08-2021 | 07:18 PM
#203
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Joined: Feb 2019
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From: baller, shot caller
Reserve while living in base really isn't that bad, except that we can't swap reserve days around. I understand that they don't want reserves dropping R days and intentionally checkerboarding the schedule, but I never understood why we can't swap green for green or especially green for red since it has a mutual benefit for both parties. Heck even the regionals let us do it that way.
11-08-2021 | 07:37 PM
#204
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Joined: May 2019
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Reserve while living in base really isn't that bad, except that we can't swap reserve days around. I understand that they don't want reserves dropping R days and intentionally checkerboarding the schedule, but I never understood why we can't swap green for green or especially green for red since it has a mutual benefit for both parties. Heck even the regionals let us do it that way.
11-09-2021 | 07:15 AM
#205
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2017
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I think the main issue is not having any option of dropping reserve days, that sucks. I also feel like our way of scheduling reserve pilots sucks. It should be on availability and seniority in my opinion. If you are junior and there is a day trip, send it to them even if they have 5 days in their schedule.
11-09-2021 | 05:29 PM
#206
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Joined: Feb 2020
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I think the main issue is not having any option of dropping reserve days, that sucks. I also feel like our way of scheduling reserve pilots sucks. It should be on availability and seniority in my opinion. If you are junior and there is a day trip, send it to them even if they have 5 days in their schedule.
I don’t see why we couldn’t try to get that back with limitations.
11-09-2021 | 06:12 PM
#207
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2021
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The only thing some people might perceive as a ‘gotcha’ would be reserve. The contractual requirement for 75% Green Day’s does drive a somewhat higher percentage of people on reserve compared to other contracts. It is a system designed to benefit line holders and justified because everyone eventually will be a line holder.
All FOs will go through it although you can then opt not to upgrade until you are senior enough to hold a line in the base upgrade vacancy you are bidding for. Last I checked NK had about 200 FOs senior to the junior CA, either because they didn’t want to switch to a junior base to upgrade or didn’t want to upgrade at all until they could do so without being on reserve.
If you are going to commute rather than live in base it is a consideration, perhaps even a ‘gotcha’ for some people. But the ability to have the QOL NK has as a line holder and readily drop trips sort of makes it a necessity. If you are going to drop it, SOMEONE will have to fly it.
All FOs will go through it although you can then opt not to upgrade until you are senior enough to hold a line in the base upgrade vacancy you are bidding for. Last I checked NK had about 200 FOs senior to the junior CA, either because they didn’t want to switch to a junior base to upgrade or didn’t want to upgrade at all until they could do so without being on reserve.
If you are going to commute rather than live in base it is a consideration, perhaps even a ‘gotcha’ for some people. But the ability to have the QOL NK has as a line holder and readily drop trips sort of makes it a necessity. If you are going to drop it, SOMEONE will have to fly it.
How long on reserve for someone hired in the near future?
How much is short call vs. long call? Does long call go senior?
And, this is not for the email quoted above, but a gotcha example would have been if you all said the company just made more days red and tried to make the union deal with it.
11-09-2021 | 07:32 PM
#208
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Joined: Feb 2007
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11-10-2021 | 04:29 AM
#209
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Joined: Apr 2015
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I think the main issue is not having any option of dropping reserve days, that sucks. I also feel like our way of scheduling reserve pilots sucks. It should be on availability and seniority in my opinion. If you are junior and there is a day trip, send it to them even if they have 5 days in their schedule.
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