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Originally Posted by Lear Driver
(Post 2967499)
Fixed it for you...
At least for the majority of hotels, if not Rosemont. The language from 16:45 to 13:45 (18:00 to 15:00) was a huge give away. Not the Unions fault. Gotta find compromises when only 10% of the pilot group can locate a picketing event. Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk Correct me if im wrong, but I remember hearing at a road show that the company did NOT push for the 18 hour this last contract, it was the union that presented it, as a way to appease the crowd who always complains about the 2 hotels we have with longer drives; LAX and IAH. So we threw the baby out with the bath water...and they brought in 18 hours. I asked a hotel committee member after this passed why we allowed 18 and they too confirmed it wasn't the company wanting this, it was from certain people on the hotel committee (based on feedback) and some negotiating members who too did not like long drives. This member told me he hates that we went to 18 and now will be forced to negotiate it back next round to a "catch weight" time between the old 15 and new 18. |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 2967556)
All so we can have free "breakfast" at the Hampton Inn on a 16 hour overnight ;)
Seriously though, take the hotel survey. Then you can at least say that you voiced your concerns ahead of time when you call out fatigued for dealing with all of these shenanigans. ”My shuttle is at 4:30. 😐” |
Originally Posted by KCJake
(Post 2967580)
“Complimentary breakfast is from 6:30 to 9:30!”
”My shuttle is at 4:30. 😐” |
Personally speaking warm milk and a bagel that moonlights as a jack stand is my favorite.
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I got my W-2 today and it’s not even the last day of January and I’m so mad everything worked out like it’s supposed to I think I’ll start a new thread to gripe about hotels or something.
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2967565)
Fact!
Correct me if im wrong, but I remember hearing at a road show that the company did NOT push for the 18 hour this last contract, it was the union that presented it, as a way to appease the crowd who always complains about the 2 hotels we have with longer drives; LAX and IAH. So we threw the baby out with the bath water...and they brought in 18 hours. I asked a hotel committee member after this passed why we allowed 18 and they too confirmed it wasn't the company wanting this, it was from certain people on the hotel committee (based on feedback) and some negotiating members who too did not like long drives. This member told me he hates that we went to 18 and now will be forced to negotiate it back next round to a "catch weight" time between the old 15 and new 18. |
Originally Posted by beverage
(Post 2967780)
IAH short is hilarious. I can see the short hotel from where we park the airplane yet it takes longer to go the half mile down JFK blvd than it does to get to the long stay hotel in 5 o clock traffic.
As far as I’m concerned all overnights should be premium hotels with a car service as transportation. Short layover should be near the airport and long in a metropolitan area within a 30min drive. They can take their free breakfast and shove it. Grab and go should be replaced with $15 cash from the hotel front desk for early departures. |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2967794)
Location doesn’t have to dictate the type of transportation provided or the type of hotel but we have let it.
As far as I’m concerned all overnights should be premium hotels with a car service as transportation. Short layover should be near the airport and long in a metropolitan area within a 30min drive. They can take their free breakfast and shove it. Grab and go should be replaced with $15 cash from the hotel front desk for early departures. |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2967794)
Short layover should be near the airport and long in a metropolitan area within a 30min drive.
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
(Post 2969176)
A 30 min drive is often not enough to get to a metro area, unless you like Rosemont.
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