Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2991612)

My guys in the training Department know NOTHING about any slow down in respect to hiring and training. That means it's 100% coming was my response. LOL this will blow over, stopping watch TV and live your life it's to much hype. In respect to the airport traffic. Was in ORD and it looks normal. Full loads!

Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2991590)

haven’t slowed hiring one bit....yet

Originally Posted by Fpmx772 (Post 2991890)

Didn’t UA already cancel their next new hire class??!’

Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2991946)

There's a whole sub-forum on APC for United. How is their business model directly correlated to Spirit's operation?

Originally Posted by Fpmx772 (Post 2991957)

If they are wiling to CX classes then I wouldn't be shocked if our hiring slows down.

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2991958)

what? Is this a real thought? Smh. You work here?

Originally Posted by Fpmx772 (Post 2991957)

If they are wiling to CX classes then I wouldn't be shocked if our hiring slows down.

Originally Posted by Lear Driver (Post 2991987)

Chimpy is back on APC full time now? Not just sporadic guest appearances?

Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2991998)

Hiring and upgrades will stop. Just like anywhere else. Please don’t reply “our VP of ops said hiring and upgrades are normal”. It’s not like he’s lying, it’s just that him (and the rest of upper management) can’t start jumping into conclusions just yet. Everyday the situation changes. “It’s only a 3% reduction”. Well that’s as Friday, we’ll see what Monday brings.
About 2 weeks ago I posted that this virus was going to affect us for sure. People here were dismissive and their replies basically suggested that my radar was set on Max gain. I’m not suggesting that we start running for the hills. We’ll recover, but surely enough this will be an important setback. We’ll have to take a brake on growth. How long? Not sure yet.

Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2991617)

dude go turn on CNN..

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2991615)

Not accurate



Read the MOU/ask a rep, and you’ll see this isn’t true. A quarantine, for example, isn’t even a sick call or deduction of any sick bank. MOU specifies a Pilot in this situation is placed on management removed paid (MRP) and fully paid protected.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2992046)

Love chimps. Maybe apc will be fun again!

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2992003)

this COVID-19 got me shook 🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2992069)

I’m on my last warning. One more “infraction” and the Ban Hammer cometh once again 😬

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2992073)

that’s when SAABrowski returns! The internet will crash that day

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2992069)

I’m on my last warning. One more “infraction” and the Ban Hammer cometh once again [emoji51]

Originally Posted by Lear Driver (Post 2992134)

Joey Meatballs was merely banned? I thought one too many Philly Cheese Steaks did him in.

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2992142)

SAABAroowski, BANNED
JoeyMeatballs BANNED

Maybe a few Screennames BANNED

kinda pathetic really 😬

Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 2992060)

I’m not arguing that point you are correct, but it’s not until you actually test positive that your sick bank is reimbursed.


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Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2992190)

For delaying your bid for 5 days, the pilots gained pay protection if you test positive for the coronavirus. As mentioned here, in this case the pay would come out of your sick bank until you tested positive. The potential for the company to have to pay even 10 pilots outside of their sick bank for testing positive is extremely low.



The pilots would have a lot of schedule changes sure, however, check the reduction in lines for each base. I could only see my base but I will compare the two numbers when the new line count is posted on the 12th. What was given up was a larger percentage of pilots having lines and then being pulled or rescheduled from that flying while still maintaining their original guarantee. In some instances, extra rescheduling pay may have even applied to some of these pilots.



Now, you will have more reserves and more 72 hour guarantees. The benefit from the company received by the pilots will likely never even be seen. It's just free insurance awarded to you that you will likely never have to put a claim against.

Originally Posted by Sheg0theD (Post 2992203)

I agree! This likely won’t affect the people who agreed to this MOU. It’s good insurance for them.


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Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 2992222)

​​​​​​Give a pilot a bar of gold and he/she will complain about the weight. While some are worrying about a potential slowdown in hiring-- or worse-- others are upset they don't get some free money as flights get axed. Please stop.

Everyone remember that a rising tide lifts all boats.
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2992223)

So let’s say that 1/10th of 1% of pilots got sick.

.001 X 2500 = 2.5 pilots

average their salary between captain and FO

215+115/2= 165

Figure guarantee 72 hours for 6 months

165 x 72 x 6 = $71,280 x 2.5 pilots = $178,200

178,200 / 2500 pilots ~ $71.28 per pilot

Vs. how much would cash would they have had to pay each of us to put a lot more guys on a reduced line in April.

Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984 (Post 2992288)

Or they could just tell the union off and delay loading the pairings into PBS, drag it out for 9 months knowing they will go to arbitration and lose and the day before the arbitration settle for pennies on the dollar and we don’t see any benefit. I don’t know what more you expect from this. We aren’t going to hold them hostage and get profit sharing over delaying the schedule by 5 days.

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2992403)

It’s not like the company wasn’t going to take the 5 day’s anyway. They would have took the days and we would have had to sent it to arbitration. And it does nobody on this list any good to not allow the company to trim when necessary so we can not take a larger loss than necessary on these flights.

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2992446)

And with people being quarantined on cruise ships and military bases, and a third of Italy on lockdown, not to mention folks sick and dying, the arbitrator would have thought that we were entitled pricks for fighting this, as would the general public and everyone else. And it doesn’t matter if you think coronavirus is overblown or not, it’s what the customer thinks and how they react to it that’s important, because that’s what really determines the economics of this.

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2992467)

I’m more distraught that you used the word “we” in the above. So with all your complaining about pay and how bad it is here, you applied and were hired?

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2992467)

I’m more distraught that you used the word “we” in the above. So with all your complaining about pay and how bad it is here, you applied and were hired?

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2992467)

I’m more distraught that you used the word “we” in the above. So with all your complaining about pay and how bad it is here, you applied and were hired?

Originally Posted by bruhaha (Post 2992642)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/polit...ons/index.html

cant be good if the airlines are going to be fined by the government for not providing information about where our passengers have traveled for the previous 14 days

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2992670)

No. I indicated that both NK and F9 ought to pay their first year people better to encourage pilot unity and in general I still believe that to be the case. For this particular ‘black swan’ event of coronavirus, it actually seems to have worked out to the advantage of both airlines, allowing them to keep hiring for growth while several of the legacies seem to be floundering with their new hires. But hopefully, these pandemics will not occur with enough frequency to change my mind about the general case. Or is my criticism of first year pay so offensive to you that you would prefer to see a series of these epidemics to change my general opinion?

Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2992852)

No, simply just don’t want to do a 4 day with you.