5-day delay in PBS bidding
 

Mec just sent out an email.

basically if you get sick from Coronavirus. or get quarantined. You’re pay protected without using your sick bank

pBS timeline pushed back 5 days

And hello reserve again...

Nice quid! On another note, hopefully the MEC will address the issue of easy listening music starting to be required to be played in the sims during PCs. I know that's a big deal for some guys and there is a petition circulating.

5 day delay in knowing my schedule . Annoying yes. But to me not a huge pain in the ***. I expect a crappier schedule, but such is life .

5-day delay in PBS bidding
 

Curious to see how much they can really trim. We aren’t a hub and spoke airline where they can just cancel some of the turns out of the hubs and put passengers on earlier or later flights.

Exactly. United announced 10% domestic. I can’t see us having some earth shattering reduction. Time will tell.

I like the quid and glad this time they got something when the MOU was signed. Fool me once....

Email said “pilot group would receive some kind of compensation”...........what compensation ??i don’t see anything....:.oh wait let me get sick so I can get tested and ohhhhhhhhhhhhh not get it from my sick bank...big whoop 😒

Didn’t email say some sort of “compensation” with the MOU they sent out for the “one time” relief? 😒😒😒🙄🙄🙄

I'm hearing 3%. Plan to continue hiring. We can only sit and watch for now.

I know there is no crystal ball, but what is the thought for new hires starting within the next couple weeks? Stay at current job or join the team?

Tough choice but I would probably still come grab a seniority number.

Thats the current plan. Tough call leaving a cush corporate gig, but worth it I hope.

sounds like a sweet month of not getting used.

Corporate guys can always go contract if they had to.. and make a lot more doing that than first year pay. I think you should get the seniority number.

except I don’t live in base.

Mistake number one.

it’s too bad this false narrative airlines and pilots have about being able to live wherever you want. I lived that nightmare for seven years. You don’t know what you don’t know was my problem. I wasn’t living where I wanted to live. I was visiting a house and my family where I wanted to live. I wasn’t actually living. Would I rather live there than in base? Yes, but living and existing are different.

Anyone know our general September pull down? Will this be September type schedule for the airline? Less or more? Do we make money in September or is it just a month trying to mitigate losses until the juicy months return?

Many people don’t live in base and have great quality of life. Not everyone wants to live in 6 possible cities, wondering when/if you’ll have to uproot the family to move to another base, if/when yours closes.

Hardly a false narrative, it’s a fact.

Some pilots just dont obsess on the negative as much as others. You clearly are not cut out for commuting, which is fine; the irony will be IF they ever close your base, you’ll be the first on here to complain about the base closing and how it affects your life.

you don’t actually have to live IN those cities. I’d say within an hour drive would still be “in base”. Almost every flavor of the United States available from big city to small town, save the pacific coast.

Opening and closing bases is why I commuted at the regional. I’d say most of our bases at the major airline level are pretty stable, and while It can happen I certainly wouldn’t worry about them closing in the near term. I thought I had a reasonable QOL while commuting until I lived in base and realized how bad commuting actually was.

I have a family member that’s been commuting to a legacy for 34 years. Top 5% on their type and pretty much just picks the trips they want. I can tell you my qol is better than theirs and I’m not anywhere near that seniority or longevity.

to each his own though.

Can I just throw it out there I think it’s cool we’re getting these protections?

Absolutely. My life absolutely blows living where I want (and am happy) - sarcasm...

Commuting doesn’t suck when you have close to a dozen flights and they are short ones at that.

I tell everyone to live where they want. It is an amazing benefit. There are almost no other careers (outside of remote IT work) that can allow this.

With all that said, you do have to be somewhat cognizant of airlines and domiciles. If you live in Miami your gonna be hating life commuting to SEA.

To end: I actually “lived in base” once. It sucked. Big time. I had hardly any friends since I didn’t know anyone in town (outside of work) and no real connection to a city that, honestly, wasn’t great.

3 months later I started commuting “home” on days off. To each their own.

3% is what I heard

Well. I’ll be d@@@@ed. You actually posted something that makes sense. Didn’t know you had it in you.

Now, about that soothing music sims LOA. Are you on board?

5-day delay in PBS bidding
 

The only thing we are really getting is that if we test positive for covid they will pay protect us and not use our sick bank. I guess it’s good, but since there seems to be a shortage of tests it’s going to be harder to prove. Otherwise if you are just quarantined due to an outbreak but don’t official have it, you will be pay protected but it will come out of your sick bank so it’s basically like calling in sick unless you actually test positive for it.


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United offering “some” pilots in certain bases on certain types 50hrs to stay home in April. Keep any carry in you have from March on top of the 50. Many widebody and some narrowbody. This was already in their contract though not an MOU like ours

I do not believe that to be accurate based on the MOU, the email we got, and the discussion I had with someone in the MEC...From what I was told based on the agreement; You can be non-symptomatic and if told to seek medical attention, quarantine or evaluation, with possible suspicion of having COVID, you are pay protected.

AND/IF/OR you are found to be positive for COVID15, you are still pay protected while being treated.

So if you suspect you might have it, or might have flown a plane with someone on it, you're pay protected. This is according to what I was told.

I don't trust the company, but I do not think this is something they will be messing around with .

I agree you are pay protected in both instances, however in the email is says “additionally” if you are confirmed to have then it doesn’t come out of your sick bank. If you are in a quarantine situation without having it you are pay protected but it would come out of your sick bank.


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What if your sick bank is in the negative?

Then you have to pay the company

this made me laugh. Not because someone would be in the negative for legit reasons but not

For real though... does this virus have the potential to double people’s reserve times and add time to upgrade here? Possibly even a hiring and upgrade freeze?


side note.. can reserve crewmembers pick up trips on their off days?

I would say absolutely there is potential to end the quick ride we’ve been on. Will it ? Time will
tell. Airline industry has been thru all
sorts of calamities, it will get thru this one too. However if this gets worse before it gets better (which I suspect) and we see a precipitous drop in bookings, then i could easily see a massive slow down in growth at NK. Even Gary Kelly made a comment the other day about how the sudden drop in bookings had the same type feel as 9/11, as far as the speed and size of the drop. Will people still go to Disney world ? Spring break? Vegas for a weekend? Time will tell. I think In the next month if I see with my own eyes, 1/2 full seats, then I’ll start to get anxious . We all knew the extreme growth we’ve had would at some point slow , is the catalyst ? Guess we are about to find out

I've been telling all the young guys it's just a matter of time and you'll get to experience the great Airline "got ya" surprise. It's funny how quick you can get kicked in the balls in this profession. When I was at a legacy back in 99 and was told 4 years to the left seat and "welcome you just became a Million air!" Thanks Bin Landen! Now maybe some can understand why some of us never went back during recalls. We had been kick in the sack! Why get kicked again!?

Aren’t we actually getting airplanes slower than planned bc Airbus can’t deliver them on time? Haven’t we slowed hiring bc of that already? That could actually help

haven’t slowed hiring one bit....yet

I have my pompom's out telling everyone to fly on spirit since we dont go to Asia or Europe so the company doesnt drop the F bomb lol. We have teams that clean our plans after every flight and airbus has a great air fliter. Looks like its working so far because my flights are full

My guys in the training Department know NOTHING about any slow down in respect to hiring and training. That means it's 100% coming was my response. LOL this will blow over, stopping watch TV and live your life it's to much hype. In respect to the airport traffic. Was in ORD and it looks normal. Full loads!

your flights are full because the tickets were purchased before anyone was familiar with Coronavirus. The issue is who is buying tickets now for May-August.


Fwiw, Coumo just declared a state of Emg in NY.

Not accurate

Read the MOU/ask a rep, and you’ll see this isn’t true. A quarantine, for example, isn’t even a sick call or deduction of any sick bank. MOU specifies a Pilot in this situation is placed on management removed paid (MRP) and fully paid protected.