Looks like United is about to ask for paycuts
 

Let’s get this straight right now. This is virus situation is bad. No amount of paycuts will save anything. Those of us that have been around or been furloughed know that paycuts will never do anything but get you paid less. They won’t save jobs and they won’t save the company. When I was furloughed paycuts were voted for and the furloughs happened anyway. SnapBack language was in place to get the money back and violated forever. The pay never comes back and the paycuts don’t help anything.

Yeah I’d rather come back to full pay after my furlough then a crappy pay rate. I’ll just drive door dash in the mean time. Business is booming.

I agree. No pay cuts. I could agree to a MOU reducing average line values, even if it takes us below guarantee. That’s our only hope to preserve jobs if this crap gets prolonged.

On a side note, I was reading in dismay section 23 of the contract:

“The Company will be excused from compliance with the pro-visions of Section 23.A.3 and Section 23.G in the event that a circumstance over which the Company does not have control causes the furlough”

So basically the company can furlough without honoring the 30-day notice and no furlough PAY! A freaking email can be sent out saying “don’t come to work tomorrow” and that would be it. Please tell me I’m reading it wrong.

There could be many furlough mitigation strategies if or when it comes to that but we shouldn’t discuss them here. Paycuts are never the answer. It’s a convenient time to come for pay and when it’s convenient for us they stall and don’t pay. There is no way to know what the next few months will hold but it’s way to early for any airline to come for pay. Layoffs yes put paycuts way too early. It will test our nerve for sure. I find United’s timing impeccably convenient.

When I got furloughed I came back at lower pay and never reached my pre furlough payrate at that company. The paycuts accomplished nothing.

I have a hard time even considering IF we get to pay cuts when I still see the ridiculous amount of waste on the line each day. Pilots taking a cut to help subsidize the running of the #1 engine when it takes a gate agent 10 minutes to show.

How about that plot of land in FLL goes up for sale?

nothing even mentioned here at Spirit yet so we don’t want to get ahead of ourselves but given the posturing coming from United management today got to assume we will hear something eventually. They know paycuts won’t save the airline or jobs but it’s a good time to look for cuts before the fear subsides. Furloughs will be based on a projected block hours not any amount of paycuts

And who would buy it with the economy collapsing?

China......duhhhhhhhhhh

haha

That would be assuming that you have an airline to come back to.

no amount of pilot paycuts will change that though.