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putzin 06-26-2020 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 3081343)
I don't follow. Just looked at random flights in the middle of August. Loads look pretty solid. I was pleasantly surprised.

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Only echoing a chiefs info from a morning call. YMMV, but with the "resurgence", they are very concerned with what is starting to develop. Regardless of how people "feel", the governors are calling the shots.

galleycafe 06-26-2020 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3081479)
Only echoing a chiefs info from a morning call. YMMV, but with the "resurgence", they are very concerned with what is starting to develop. Regardless of how people "feel", the governors are calling the shots.

I see. A Chief call definitely has better info than my shotgun load check.

Should we be using the term "Chief" any more? I'm waiting for that revisionist history leaf to turn.

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Silver02ex 06-26-2020 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3081362)
I don’t either. The P2P Call had a nice gem
in it. Not sure how many read it all.

Of the 3 possible scenarios come October.

1. Demand returns fast as hell and we continue to grow this year.

2. Things stagnant a bit, but not so bad we furlough

3. They have to right size...

As of this past week, they are not thinking or planning on us going down the 3rd scenario Road. Of course this can change, but solid to hear regardless.

Given a massive amount of tickets are being purchased last minute (1-2 weeks out), according to JM on the townhall, this August numbers are abysmal has me thinking BS.

Its still June. If you have public data to support August looking awful, by all means share it, but until I see how July pans out, I’m not going to speculate.

I was wondering if anyone else read that. Scenario 3 of “right size ship” may not happen, is the way I read it. Check your base Whstsapp I’m sure someone has a copy of it.

Mtnbikemike 06-26-2020 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 3081503)
I was wondering if anyone else read that. Scenario 3 of “right size ship” may not happen, is the way I read it. Check your base Whstsapp I’m sure someone has a copy of it.

All one has to do is look at the current political environment, the drive by news media and see what is going on to predict future loads. The story is a resurgence of COVID-19, Florida and Texas pulling back and NY/NJ requiring a mandatory quarantine. Maximum political pressure, never let a good crisis go to waste.
Delta is pretty much saying expect furloughs, United May go bankrupt, American, who knows. The airlines are asking for another huge bailout. I hope I’m wrong for the many young folks we have, but having been through this before, I’d be planning for the worse and hoping for the best.
My word of advice if anyone cares, it’s temporary. Things will get better, it’s a cyclical industry. Fix your finances, Refinance or downsize, keep your car longer, get rid of cable, change your cellphone plan, eat in more, find free things to do. Live like a regional pilot again. Many of us have survived this before, those affected by this will also.

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL4N2E22HH

MainlineorSuici 06-27-2020 03:59 AM

I never made it into the WhatsApp’s.

anyone got a source or PM me a link of this document/call/recording that supposedly has good news?


or a link to the whatsapps:D

DrSteveBrule 06-27-2020 07:09 AM

We all have the ability to view future loads. Posting them on here would be unethical. With 80% off fare deals, our planes better be full. I would think 80% off fares isn't about making money so much as slowing losses. Let's just hope the majority one week to two week out bookings mgmt keeps referencing continues into July and August.

Jimdunbar 06-27-2020 05:36 PM

With the record setting pace of new cases the last few days, I would count on this being over by a long shot

WaterRooster 06-28-2020 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3081479)
Only echoing a chiefs info from a morning call. YMMV, but with the "resurgence", they are very concerned with what is starting to develop. Regardless of how people "feel", the governors are calling the shots.

F9 got the same kind of memo. Bookings in Aug and beyond aren’t looking hot. The news headlines and the northeast quarantining people are not helping anything

Silver02ex 06-28-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 3082481)
F9 got the same kind of memo. Bookings in Aug and beyond aren’t looking hot. The news headlines and the northeast quarantining people are not helping anything

Based in our last town hall. It’s hard to predict what the end of July and beyond will look like, since our booking is usually 1-2 weeks out.

MCDUmanipulator 06-28-2020 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 3082481)
F9 got the same kind of memo. Bookings in Aug and beyond aren’t looking hot. The news headlines and the northeast quarantining people are not helping anything


yet they just launched an expansion for the winter.


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