that’s a hard earned accomplishment but it still doesn’t mean you’re the only one in your age group who has any work ethic.

Not too often you hear someone using their Army infantry creds as proof of being above average ;). I guess you could be a Marine...but you chose Stryker for your name.

I never made that claim. I said most of my peers are worthless pushovers. Not all. Peers being other millennials.

You don't have to be a vet to be an above average millennial. The bar has been set pretty low.

Generalizing an entire group of people age 39-24 and judging their character by the years they were born :rolleyes:

If the shoe fits.

Afghanistan and Iraq were fought by 20 somethings, by and large, as was Vietnam, Korea, and the Big One, you find quotes by ancient Roman sages decrying the state of their younger generation’s, this generation is no different than any other.

What happened to Rome again?

what happens to most empires eventually

Sadly, we’re well on our way down the same path.

Hard times make tough people. Tough people make good times. Good times make weak people. Weak people make hard times.

I think that the generational term "millennial" covers too broad a time span. Every once in awhile you'll see or hear the term "xennial" used to describe the elder millennial crowd born in the early to mid 80s, who can be said to have had an analog childhood growing up and a digital adulthood. This micro generation had to deal with the fallout from both 9/11 and 2008. In contrast, younger millennials born in the 90s had access to cell phones and social media while still in childhood, and haven't really experienced a major crisis in this country until this year.

Worlds of difference in my opinion and it depends on who you are measuring when you mentioned the bar being set pretty low.

Belleau Wood? Starts with "B".

That's not what he said.

These millennials and xennials really have no idea how hard it was to find quality porn before the digital age.

The Battle of Belleau Wood was fought in World War One.

It’s where the Marines earned the nickname “teufelhunden” or Devil Dog...

While the dot com bust, 9/11, the war on terror, and the financial crisis were by no means easy, quality of life never dramatically changed. I cringe when I hear people talk about how hard they have it because what comes to mind is how the other half live. I saw the most gut wrenching poverty most people couldn't possibly imagine when I was over there.

Fedalayah which is just south of Sadr City is a neighborhood of homes made of mud. The plumbing is a pvc pipe that goes from a hole in the side of their home into a trench that runs the length of a dirt road. The smell is as bad as you can imagine. Half the world lives in this kind of poverty. And my peers complain about living in a level of prosperity most of the world can only dream about.

So while older millennials had fewer gadgets and more experiences than the younger end, we still grew up in and live in the most prosperous and advanced time in human history. I always try to keep that in mind before I open my mouth to complain about something trivial. I wish others would too.

Exactly before xnxx and Facebook messenger you had to use a dial up modem and 10 minutes later of downloading you would get 1 nudy pic.

Nothing beats a vhs or the audlt section in a video rental store lol. I would pay lots of money to walk through a blockbuster again

Aaaah those were the days (Be kind and rewind). I figured I would just peruse the DVD section here on an Air Base in Japan at the BX since my room had a DVD player in it. Turns out they stopped selling DVDs here over 6 months ago. Streaming at home is the thing. Been that way for awhile, getting old I know.

Pandemic - bad, recession - bad, unemployment - bad, etc., but power out for a month or more that would be catastrophic. Hence the Greatest Generation, it’s all a matter of perspective. I would take power out way before WWII. My DVD player is useless anyway. Where’s my Walkman II

Are you kidding? In 1970, a 12 year old boy with 35 cents in his pocket could ride his bike to the post office and buy some the most vile underground newspapers you could imagine!

Great....so oct 1? 4mm burn a day. What do we cut?

Speak for yourself!

https://i.gifer.com/AwYu.gif

unfortunately, if my math is correct, more than 25% of that 4M a day goes to pilot payroll. Between that and benefits, retirement, training etc, I’d say the pilot group is easily 1/3 of the 4M a day budget.

I’m a 2019 hire so I’m currently looking for fall jobs as a restaurant server :rolleyes:

Yup skipper - I’ll be a hamburger flipping whiz 😁

- 2020 hire

this is amazing. The SPICE channel 😁

If you squint really hard you can almost make out a nipple.

You do realize that worldwide, CoVID-19 is like the 4th highest killing disease daily? The US has lost more people than in Vietnam and it’s only been a few months with that number growing . You are ignorant and should be ashamed.

i could walk outside and get hit by a bus and my death certificate would say COVID-19 related.

OMG, GMAB. NJ, one of the most highly populated states in the country has 9,000 deaths, of which 5,000 are from long term care facilities. So lets take the remaining 4,000, how many were over the age of 70? Or had underlying issues?

it’s not anywhere near as deadly as CNN would like you to believe

Why isn’t it? If you are in a category of being at risk for Covid 19, you have the choice of isolating yourself until a vaccine is available just like you have a choice of supersizing at Micky D’s. It’s a choice. I should be able to decide if I want to go to work. If you don’t like it, that’s your choice.
So basically you want to continue to have the entire economy shut down for people being at risk in nursing homes because the management of those facilities failed their clients? I’m sure outside of the managed care facilities, there are many with pre-existing conditions included in the deaths of Covid 19, but the vast majority of the working people of this economy will be ok. But if you want to stay in your safe space, I’m ok with that.

About 750K people normally die in the US each month.

The annual flu toll is approximately equal to the vietnam toll.

The annual highway carnage toll is approximately equal to the vietnam toll.

Actually, no. Infectious disease plays a part in heart disease deaths as well. Less now than before the development of antibiotics for the prevention of post streptococcal heart disease, but a not inconsiderable percentage even now.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323855

https://www.myocarditisfoundation.or...f-myocarditis/

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S1...168-2/fulltext

Well said. Obesity/heart disease is one of risk factors for Covid related deaths as well. We live in one of the fattest countries in the world, with a McDonald’s at every corner. Dying from heart disease is always tomorrow’s problem so nobody cares.

Now if you’ll excuse me, my cheeseburger from Uber Eats has arrived, since I’m too scared to leave my house and burn calories to go get it myself.

The number that Covid-19 deaths are not being weighed against, and is harder to immediately quantify, is the number of lives being lost to suicide, opioid addiction, domestic violence and so on and so forth as people are financially ruined from the shutdown. There are a lot of us cruising along semi normally through this, but many, many people are being devastated.

If that hat number is even a tenth of a percent of the population then it dwarfs the Covid deaths by about a factor of 5. Opening things up will increase the former and decrease the latter. The idea is to have them meet at the L/Dmax point for minimum death moving forward. And that point isn’t to continue to shelter in place.

The coming freak outs of Covid cases and deaths on the rise as people start mixing again is to be expected. But only because a baseline cost benefit analysis with which to measure those deaths against isn’t being presented to the populace for consideration. One, because it’s not easy to quantify, and two, because sensationalism sells.

Yes, Covid deaths have exceeded Vietnam war deaths. If the death rate caused by the financial stresses of the shutdown is even one tenth of one percent of the population then we are rapidly approaching WW2 death tolls, and if it’s five hundredths of one percent then it’s still nearly three times the Corona virus lives lost.

Hence, it’s time to opens things up in a reasonable phased approach with the goal of having everything running full tilt again by perhaps late summer or early fall while the most at risk shelter as best they can until we have more tools available to help those suffering the worst effects of the infection.

I know we're not supposed to insult people....but where do these idiots come from?

Maybe you should research what happens when an economy crashes?

Wear a mask, try not to touch your face and wash your hands... Dip*hit.

Yes, and meanwhile over 33,000,000 are unemployed and still rapidly climbing, with no end in sight. All for a fraction of 1% of the population.

Is it October 1 yet?

Let the record show I’m not here to support either specific side of this argument (amazing how FOX and CNN can divide us over anything), but one could reasonably say that without all these measures (and unemployment), we wouldn’t be talking about “a fraction of 1%” of the population.

separately, we aren’t doing this for the <1% of the population (the percent that has been infected thus far), we’re doing it to protect our entire population. I mean it’s not rocket science to see that without the measures taken, hospitals would be drowning right now.

I want people to start flying and shopping again, too, I’m just not going to let a Republican or Democrat backed news outlet tell me what to think and who to hate over all this lol

They would have been drowning initially. They are now stocked up and have an ample logistics train to support them. And we have several avenues to treat those who are hospitalized, and a lot more experience with fighting this bug. Time to move on.