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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3059544)
If you have diabetes and get run over by a bus, its the bus that killed you.
Arguing that we should only count 6 of those deaths in San Diego is incredibly disingenuous. having diabetes, obesity, heart disease, COPD etc is proven to exacerbate covid. |
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3059589)
that’s apples to oranges. Having diabetes doesn’t exacerbate a bus. Making a comparison like that is disingenuous
having diabetes, obesity, heart disease, COPD etc is proven to exacerbate covid. Plane Coffee |
Obviously preexisting conditions exacerbate covid.
Pretending that only 6 people died of Covid is just ridiculous. Go talk to the family member of someone who has died of Covid and tell them about your little theory. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3059544)
If you have diabetes and get run over by a bus, its the bus that killed you.
Arguing that we should only count 6 of those deaths in San Diego is incredibly disingenuous. 'Excess deaths' will be telling. In18 months; the difference between statically expected deaths and absolute deaths will paint a clearer picture of the diseases true impact to society. There is strong indication that Covid has been hastening the demise of the weak; and that will be reflected in excess deaths. If less people die than expected in 6 months, because they we're 'cleared out' by covid, those numbers will be captured. We'll likely see that Covid caused a huge number of 'early deaths', but the expected deaths won't be nearly as high. Obviously; any 'early death' hastened by the disease is tragic, and any definition of 'early' is subjective, biology & statistics are science. |
Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre
(Post 3059666)
<snip> Obviously; any 'early death' hastened by the disease is tragic, and any definition of 'early' is subjective, biology & statistics are science.
Not necessarily! I saw my mother die of complications from decades of diabetes. The last couple years were horrendous, and the last few months were in and out of ICUs. It was my own mother - and if she had died of Corona - I would have been livid - because I was emotionally vested. However, rationally, looking back, hindsight, Monday morning etc. - It may have been a kinder outcome. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3059635)
Obviously preexisting conditions exacerbate covid.
Pretending that only 6 people died of Covid is just ridiculous. Go talk to the family member of someone who has died of Covid and tell them about your little theory. Did they all get hit by a bus? Plane Coffee |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3059544)
If you have diabetes and get run over by a bus, its the bus that killed you.
Arguing that we should only count 6 of those deaths in San Diego is incredibly disingenuous. Out of 333 million Americans there are an awful lot that are walking around with one foot in the grave and the other on a cake of soap. No possible societal actions we could do can keep these people alive very long. |
Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre
(Post 3059666)
There will never be a true consensus over how many people in the US have died of Covid. The reporting standards aren't strict or prescriptive enough and different organizations define cause of death in different ways.This is one of the downsides of a sprawling privatized and Balkanized heath care system.
'Excess deaths' will be telling. In18 months; the difference between statically expected deaths and absolute deaths will paint a clearer picture of the diseases true impact to society. There is strong indication that Covid has been hastening the demise of the weak; and that will be reflected in excess deaths. If less people die than expected in 6 months, because they we're 'cleared out' by covid, those numbers will be captured. We'll likely see that Covid caused a huge number of 'early deaths', but the expected deaths won't be nearly as high. Obviously; any 'early death' hastened by the disease is tragic, and any definition of 'early' is subjective, biology & statistics are science. |
Originally Posted by spirited
(Post 3059712)
NOT PC - skip this post if you need Politically correct statements
Not necessarily! I saw my mother die of complications from decades of diabetes. The last couple years were horrendous, and the last few months were in and out of ICUs. It was my own mother - and if she had died of Corona - I would have been livid - because I was emotionally vested. However, rationally, looking back, hindsight, Monday morning etc. - It may have been a kinder outcome. |
Everyone’s so worried about deciding who died of covid that you missed the good news. We’re going to be running 80 flights a day now instead of 50! For those bad at math we need to be running around 375 a day to just “only” furlough half our pilots come October.
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