^^^^This x infinity!!!

I also agree. They say seniority is everything, and this is why. We all had to pass through the low seniority danger zone at one point or another. Just another part of chasing golden carrots.

It’s a reduced average line value. Settle down

JB did not sign a new concessionary contract. It’s a LOA for a specific period of time that expires on May ‘21. I wouldn’t sign a concessionary contract for sure, but a fair temporary compromise to save furloughs? I definitely would. I’m mid seniority so not worried about getting furlough myself , but can’t be an assh*le and say “screw the junior guys”.
It’s highly likely JB will be among the few (maybe the only) pax carrier than won’t furlough thru the pandemic.Pilots will get back their original contract in May ‘21 and many families will spared.

Correct. Let’s all wait to see the details, but it won’t be concessions. JetBlue’s furlough section of the contract is pretty strong and that’s why I think you see the company going this route. For instance myself having 4 years seniority, plus my PTO would earn me about 7 months pay if I was furloughed.

Care Bear is just sour grapes that he left allegiant to go to the bottom of your list and now faces furlough, where if he stayed here he'd be in good shape, even with a furlough.

Allegiant has said several times now they they aren't planning to furlough, unless the second wave results in more lockdowns, but that probably holds true for everyone. If there are more lockdowns there will be some airline liquidations.

Allegiant has zero international flights. The closest we get to international is foreign nationals driving across the border to catch our flights in places like Bellingham WA, Grand Forks ND, Ogdensburg NY, Niagra Falls, El Paso, and McAllen TX. All of that has completely dried up, but was probably only 10% or less of our total operation.

Ok skippy, no need to get upset. That’s why I said I have no idea what JB negotiated. I just stated that I wasn’t willing to discuss concessions. Besides that, isn’t a reduced line value the same as taking a pay cut? Just calling it something different? Same thing could be achieved by reducing hourly pay and keeping line guarantee.

I’m at the very bottom of the list. I’ll take that furlough to avoid concessions. I’ve been in the regionals since 2012 and played that game.

no. The answer is no. Send me home for a while but absolutely.... NO.

In that case whats the difference than us taking VIL every month. It’s a pay cut right?

I can’t recall but either Fedex or UPS has this exact furlough protection in their contract. Don’t be so quick to dismiss the idea as it has the potential to prevent much disruption that maybe you haven’t considered. Displacements and downgrades come to mind.