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week 07-05-2020 08:00 AM

I just came from a regional, only shared quality I’ve seen is the great pilot group. This place is a dream come true :D

nuball5 07-05-2020 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike (Post 3086323)
I know seniority is a hard thing to grasp for the I need to have it now, millennial mindset generation. I know it’s hard to hear the truth and not get a participation trophy. But I’m actually a decent guy to fly with. I don’t flight instruct. I let you learn doing it your way and do what works for you. I usually pick up the tab the entire trip for all first year guys that don’t act entitled. I’d also be the first to take an early out to let you have your piece of the pie. 30 years as a commercial pilot is starting to lose it’s charm.
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?

I think Spirit and some of the other domestic carriers can take advantage on the other side of this virus while the Big 3 retreat. That can’t happen if you have 10%-20% of your pilots on the street and there’s probably about a two year window for that. Seniority is obviously everything in this business, but I think that’s why a lot of senior Jetblue guys have been respective to spreading out the wealth with an immediate snapback when business returns to normal. We’ll see the details in a couple weeks.

DrSteveBrule 07-05-2020 08:21 AM

I'm on team Mtnbikemike. Sounds experienced and wise to me.

sioux8ships 07-05-2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike (Post 3086323)
I know seniority is a hard thing to grasp for the I need to have it now, millennial mindset generation. I know it’s hard to hear the truth and not get a participation trophy. But I’m actually a decent guy to fly with. I don’t flight instruct. I let you learn doing it your way and do what works for you. I usually pick up the tab the entire trip for all first year guys that don’t act entitled. I’d also be the first to take an early out to let you have your piece of the pie. 30 years as a commercial pilot is starting to lose it’s charm.
JetBlue might have been a better choice for you?

Put me on the “I want to fly with this guy list!”

69fastback 07-05-2020 10:11 AM

I’d just like to to work, and I don’t care who I fly with. Just going flying would be nice.

CLE to IAH 07-05-2020 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 3086442)
I’d just like to to work, and I don’t care who I fly with. Just going flying would be nice.

same. We are all different. Learn to play in the sandbox. In 8 years I’ve never been so triggered by a different set of ideals or opinions that I felt the need to call in sick and stay home until someone I deemed worth flying with came along.

THKooj 07-05-2020 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3086470)
same. We are all different. Learn to play in the sandbox. In 8 years I’ve never been so triggered by a different set of ideals or opinions that I felt the need to call in sick and stay home until someone I deemed worth flying with came along.

You certainly like to bash me every chance you get. I noticed in your last dig, you referred to me as an idiot. Considering you walked away from American and are now looking at possible furlough from an ACMI type 36th St Miami operation, I wonder who the idiot is?

korg128 07-05-2020 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by doublebed (Post 3086374)
This is like the guys who feel the need to mention that they are “laid back” in the briefing. It’s just isn’t so.

so true so true

FlyPurdue 07-05-2020 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3086544)
You certainly like to bash me every chance you get. I noticed in your last dig, you referred to me as an idiot. Considering you walked away from American and are now looking at possible furlough from an ACMI type 36th St Miami operation, I wonder who the idiot is?

I do not have a dog in this fight, but I have been following your Envoy posts since their inception. Without bickering - introduce me any financial advisor who would ever advocate continuing a job (Envoy) whose total compensation is <50% to that of Spirit's. NPV is a real thing, and I would much rather make 2-3x more money now, verses continue making Envoy money for 5-7 more years and then go to AA.

Silver02ex 07-05-2020 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3086544)
You certainly like to bash me every chance you get. I noticed in your last dig, you referred to me as an idiot. Considering you walked away from American and are now looking at possible furlough from an ACMI type 36th St Miami operation, I wonder who the idiot is?

You spelled Envoy wrong.


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