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Originally Posted by kangaroopilot
(Post 3511011)
Where are you getting 4%?
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Bottom of the market will be 22-25k on the Dow. The yield curve is inverted so we aren’t even close to the bottom of this. This is not like 2008. At that time bonds sky rocketed as the equity markets fell. We are in a period of stagflation that will take years to recover from. Possibly 10 yrs if our govt (junta) doesn’t remove its head from its bum.
Pay your stuff off. |
Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3511032)
Bottom of the market will be 22-25k on the Dow. The yield curve is inverted so we aren’t even close to the bottom of this. This is not like 2008. At that time bonds sky rocketed as the equity markets fell. We are in a period of stagflation that will take years to recover from. Possibly 10 yrs if our govt (junta) doesn’t remove its head from its bum.
Pay your stuff off. I agree with you, btw. |
I’m anti merger and hoping it gets squashed. But I got my $6000 from Jetblue today.. thank you Robin and company..
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
(Post 3520705)
I’m anti merger and hoping it gets squashed. But I got my $6000 from Jetblue today.. thank you Robin and company..
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
(Post 3520705)
I’m anti merger and hoping it gets squashed. But I got my $6000 from Jetblue today.. thank you Robin and company..
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I have 2 lots in two different accounts.
it came cash (obviously) right into Both accounts. If you own it then check your accounts. it should be there. Typo error.. $5000. (2000 shares) |
Nada here…. :(
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 3520745)
Nada here…. :(
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
(Post 3520752)
Mine is there too. It doesn’t show under your workplace.schwab account though.
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
(Post 3520752)
Mine is there too. It doesn’t show under your workplace.schwab account though.
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 3520764)
Mine are through a separate brokerage trading account, perhaps there’s a lag….
The clearing house/transaction may take an extra day. But you’ll get it 100%. As long you as owned the stock on or before September 12 |
Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
(Post 3520817)
yeah perhaps. But there’s zero doubt you’ll get it.
The clearing house/transaction may take an extra day. But you’ll get it 100%. As long you as owned the stock on or before September 12 |
Now take that money and buy spirit stock w it and next year I’ll be the easiest money you ever made
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Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3521716)
Now take that money and buy spirit stock w it and next year I’ll be the easiest money you ever made
Why would I buy stock when my current basis is in the single digits?? |
Bc it’s at $22ish and when this closes next year they’ll pay you $33.50
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Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3521752)
Bc it’s at $22ish and when this closes next year they’ll pay you $33.50
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I actually sell bed bath And beyond coupons on let go. Pokémon too
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Looks like Spirit will start to issue dividends starting January 31st. (Jan 25th Ex-dividend date)
If you had your SAVE stock for a while you could be “double dipping” with your dividends and your your JetBlue ticking fee. https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/nyse-save-earnings-date-2023-01-30/ |
Originally Posted by DrSours
(Post 3582133)
Looks like Spirit will start to issue dividends starting January 31st. (Jan 25th Ex-dividend date)
If you had your SAVE stock for a while you could be “double dipping” with your dividends and your your JetBlue ticking fee. https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/nyse-save-earnings-date-2023-01-30/ Not even Spirit’s management is bad enough to issue a .10 dividend on earnings projected to be .04 |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3582409)
Spirit ain’t paying crap, there isn’t 2 payments. The “dividend” is the ticking fee, paid by JBLU
Not even Spirit’s management is bad enough to issue a .10 dividend on earnings projected to be .04 |
Originally Posted by DrSours
(Post 3582798)
The article is misleading then…because it specifically says Spirit is paying dividends. I’m not saying your wrong. I think the article could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3582409)
Spirit ain’t paying crap, there isn’t 2 payments. The “dividend” is the ticking fee, paid by JBLU
Not even Spirit’s management is bad enough to issue a .10 dividend on earnings projected to be .04 |
Originally Posted by OpenClimb
(Post 3584264)
Actually, I received a dividend $0.10 per share of SAVE stock just as the article stated. It showed up in my eTrade account on 01/31/23. Just FYI.
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
(Post 3584264)
Actually, I received a dividend $0.10 per share of SAVE stock just as the article stated. It showed up in my eTrade account on 01/31/23. Just FYI.
https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001498710/c3f52e5b-c74a-46e2-9c67-9c36cab1d47e.pdf |
Hey, we only lost 270 million in the fourth quarter! Congrats to our management!
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301739785.html |
Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 3587316)
Hey, we only lost 270 million in the fourth quarter! Congrats to our management!
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301739785.html |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3587323)
First to profitability!
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy
(Post 3587466)
if this merger doesn’t go through how’s this going to play out?
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3587488)
Doesn’t seem great. Utilization is down and they’re adding more airplanes. Attrition is way up. They’re sunk, and there’s a possibility they don’t make it to the merger, but I think that’s pretty low probability.
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3587505)
I’m kinda worried…should I start selling my sperm now?
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3587505)
I’m kinda worried…should I start selling my sperm now?
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Company had $363m in special items in Q4 which is reflected in the loss for GAAP accounting. Unfortunately, few companies use GAAP standards and like Spirit, report on "adjusted" earnings. So once NK takes out their $363 in special items, they show a profit. So as far as Wall St is concerned, they dont are about the GAAP loss, they care about the adjusted earnings beating estimated by a ton. Its why the stock is up in after hours. The company posted a profit as far as they are concerned.
In case anyone is curious, $348m of that loss was described as... "2022 includes legal, advisory, and other fees related to the former Agreement and Plan of Merger with Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. and Top Gun Acquisition Corp. (the “Frontier Merger Agreement”), the unsolicited proposal by JetBlue to acquire all of the Company's outstanding shares in an all-cash transaction, and the Agreement and Plan of Merger with JetBlue and Sundown Acquisition Corp. (the "JetBlue Merger Agreement"). In addition, 2022 includes costs associated with the retention bonus programs under the Frontier Merger Agreement and the JetBlue Merger Agreement" |
Nice to see we’ll be doubling our 321 fleet by year end 2024. That should help the override with the 319s being sold.
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 3587555)
Nice to see we’ll be doubling our 321 fleet by year end 2024. That should help the override with the 319s being sold.
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Looks like the ULCC model is still viable as long as you don’t have incompetent CEO’s/management
https://airwaysmag.com/frontier-repo...ng-q4-profits/ |
Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 3588899)
Looks like the ULCC model is still viable as long as you don’t have incompetent CEO’s/management
https://airwaysmag.com/frontier-repo...ng-q4-profits/ We were doing great at 100 planes. It’s 200 that’s the problem. You can apparently run a ULCC airline that generates profits when it has 100 planes and you keep the same infrastructure as when it had 50 planes. Problem is you cannot run with the infrastructure for 50 planes when you have 200. That is our problem. On a side note I would never want to be an employee of Frontier. That place is set up to be a cash machine for its owners and northing else. The amount of daily BS one would have to deal with over a career would be massive. They have no interest in running an airline or making anyone happy but themselves. |
Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 3588899)
Looks like the ULCC model is still viable as long as you don’t have incompetent CEO’s/management
https://airwaysmag.com/frontier-repo...ng-q4-profits/ but for some reason their stock is down 17% today. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3588941)
but for some reason their stock is down 17% today.
Listening to UALs earnings call for 4Q, maybe Kirby will not be 100% correct about all of his predictions, but he sure sounded night-and-day different than Biffle about acknowledging all the challenges ahead for the industry. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3587544)
Company had $363m in special items in Q4 which is reflected in the loss for GAAP accounting. Unfortunately, few companies use GAAP standards and like Spirit, report on "adjusted" earnings. So once NK takes out their $363 in special items, they show a profit. So as far as Wall St is concerned, they dont are about the GAAP loss, they care about the adjusted earnings beating estimated by a ton. Its why the stock is up in after hours. The company posted a profit as far as they are concerned.
In case anyone is curious, $348m of that loss was described as... "2022 includes legal, advisory, and other fees related to the former Agreement and Plan of Merger with Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. and Top Gun Acquisition Corp. (the “Frontier Merger Agreement”), the unsolicited proposal by JetBlue to acquire all of the Company's outstanding shares in an all-cash transaction, and the Agreement and Plan of Merger with JetBlue and Sundown Acquisition Corp. (the "JetBlue Merger Agreement"). In addition, 2022 includes costs associated with the retention bonus programs under the Frontier Merger Agreement and the JetBlue Merger Agreement" |
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