It’s that easy month after month to have pbs award you 85-90 hours with everything you wanted and almost no QOL hit for grabbing all those incredibly desirable leftovers in open time? Don’t forget, the original claim was “Doable on 4th year pay with minimal extra flying above your line”

Factor in per diem and 321 over-ride and its really not that hard. Speaking anecdotally so ymmv, but living in base on 4th yr fo pay it’s not rocket science if your goal is to make 150k. Not to mention, if we are really splitting hairs, by the time any prospective new hire is looking at 4th year pay we will hopefully have a new contract with a better pay gradient.

and also probably looking at upgrade

Silver02, Landgreen, Onedolla & MCDU…..thank you for the replies. That’s very practical what you all said & I’ll plan on that 72 hrs min guarantee. Very nice of you guys to give a detailed answer.

For what it’s worth.

When I was on first year pay, (including three months of training pay)I grossed 80K on first year pay. I live in base and did zero premium my first year.

I also was able to get two months of a build up line after training. I credited around 110 hours each of those months which helped in making some extra cash.


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Before everyone gets their hopes up for the first year pay-
My Gross pay was around 55K in 2019 and I did maybe two premium (Xlist) flying events and also had one month after training a 100 hr line. So I’m not sure if everybody is able to get to 80K in the first year.

So you’re saying there’s a chance 😂😂

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It wasn’t to hard for me. I was in a junior based and held a line after 6 months of reserve.

I should also add I didn’t get my first W2 until 3 months after my first year was over.


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Probably should have led the first post with that.

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True, however it was still my first full calendar year. With the hiring we are doing now, I can’t imagine reserve would be longer then 6-9 months at a junior base.

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how is training nowadays...just trying to get input..I get is not AQP and come prepared..

I don’t know if it’s fully AQP yet, but it will be quite soon. Either way, come prepared.

New hire training will be the last to get AQP. It’s still the old fashioned PC. Study what they tell you to and you’ll be fine.

I saw on the Spirit Pilot FB page, someone talking about videos for the flows - I cant find them anywhere in.on the training site . . . I know I'm slow, but am I totally missing something here? I have the "Flow guide" Revision 8, btw. Just be nice if there was a video or something else.

Once you get your EFB, you will have access to comply. The training videos are on comply.


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GOTCHA!!! That makes sense! I appreciate it.

Be careful with that. There's a few out of date items.

Also starting soon and can’t find the flows. Everyone says you need to have them down day 1 is that true or will I have a couple weeks to get them down once i get the EFB on day one?

you need to know them

Know them... You need to 100% know them for CPT 1 that starts week 2. You will be doing FLL-MCO the first few CPT's with an instructor and if you struggle with flows that will set you back quite a bit. You need those CPT's to really learn things like programming the MCDU and learning FMA and Autoflight etc, not catching up on flows. I also recommend knowing your callouts for normal takeoff and ILS approach BEFORE the first CPT. I was a tad behind on the after landing flow... for the life of me I couldnt get that flow down after I landed because of so much going on LOL but by CPT 3 I was fine and it went smoothly the rest of the week. So, just know them all the best you can.

Okay ill definitely get them down if i can find them !!

The training is really easy here: Do what they tell you to do. It's that simple. If you get behind, you can catch up, but you don't really want to stress yourself out.

Did you get an email with SpiritU?? everything is on there. Look up Flows revision 8 and also AOM Vol 2- Normal procedures on SpiritU. If you didnt get that, email Sandi she should set you up with that

HR should have sent you a packet with a panel poster that tells you how to get the study material.

“A320 cockpit” app costs a few bucks but was invaluable. Just make sure to
update and select the spirit flows

Searching “flows revision 8” worked. Thank you !

works pretty well, but I think the prelim and cockpit preparation flows have minor changes, so recommend to back those up with AOM 2.

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Hello, i have class in less than 2 weeks. I have tried getting in contact with the training department to get the updated profile for normal takeoff but i cant seem to get a response from them. Any chance anyone could PM me a good email for them? I already have everything else committed to memory limitations/flows/memory items/proficiency items ext.. but that one profile. I was made aware they changed it from what we have now in the AOM 2. I’d greatly appreciate it!

if you have everything memorized already, the change to the takeoff callouts is very minor and even though you learned the “old” way, it’s not that hard to get used to the “new” call outs.

There’s some background, but i would imagine that the ground instructors might mention it if you ask about it when you get to training, You can probably ask during indoc the first week if you’re not too busy.

perfect thank you very much for that!

do you have access to the flight manuals then since you mentioned AOM2?

you’re looking for the Operations Bulletins. In the OBs, you’re looking for OEB-59 v1. That has the new takeoff profile as OBs override AOMs.

oh well crap. Just learned I can’t do the LOC 27 into SanDog anymore. Went into effect two days ago… lol

Edit: The OEB-59 is the background for the takeoff profile change but I can’t seem to find anything that changes the takeoff profile except for an email dated July 12, 2021 saying that a change to the AOM was going to be released concurrently with OEB59. But it not in the AOM, so I don’t know.

I don’t remember getting an email about the LOC into SAN. Why can we do that anymore?

Apparently we won't be doing any LOC approaches ever again. That's a plus for the MV at least!

that’s what I get for pushing the button to update the manuals in comply.

my manuals are up to date but I have no clue as to what the updates are.

Seems like reading is my weak point

I discovered they removed LOC and LDA off our OpSpecs in OB21-27 effective 7 sep 21. So no more LOC27 into SanDog.

i will look up if we have access to the OEB. I think we only get a few manuals like AOM 1 & 2, COM 1 & 2, FOM, EFB, FOTM, MEL & QRM. I will keep searching. Thank you so much for your response!

Is that found in the apple store or Google play?

Apple, but you don't need it. You'll get the iPad day 1 that has a similar program for free.

I guess at this point every runway has at least an RNAV, including San Diego. I haven't done a LOC approach at Spirit, just ILS and RNAV. Actually I'm not sure if I ever did one at my regional.

Ok I'd like to start studying with the app earlier than day if it's beneficial. 1 however . Thank you.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/a320-c...s/id1164554980



The Airbus A320 Procedures Handbook Vol. 1


https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-...1/id1535136430



A320 Limitations & Memory Items



https://books.apple.com/us/book/a320...s/id1571128614



Airbus A320: An Advanced Systems Guide



https://books.apple.com/us/book/airb...de/id981003165





https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ispring-play/id642452385 (Read ECAM)