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TrojanCMH 03-30-2021 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by LabDad06 (Post 3213356)
I liked the Southwest (IIRC) North Face style jackets I saw around Sea-Tac. Lightweight, clean looking, don't have to worry about wrinkles. Look better and more professional than leather jackets. Lighter, more compact, and good in the wind as well.


These are the same karbon jackets we have. They’re heavier than they look.

spirited 03-30-2021 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 3213348)
They all look terrible on me because I have a beer belly.

:D too right! However, I don't drink beer - so is mine a "bourbon belly"?

putzin 03-30-2021 10:07 AM

Sweater
 
Go with the sweater, all around the most comfortable option!

king10pin02 03-30-2021 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 3212811)
“Home of the Bear Fare”

I think the argument for a merger between Spirit & Frontier seems pretty obvious (e.g. massive ULCC, fleet type commonality, similar contracts, route overlap, etc.). There seems to be a consensus that the trajectory of the industry may lead to more consolidation. All that said, why wouldn’t a merger between Spirit + Frontier happen? I know this is all speculative, but it highlights the differences and potential trajectories of the companies.

mergers are bad for all employee groups. as pilots we should not want to merge. not to mention how it effects gate/ground/office jobs. also bad for our customers as prices would rise

CincoDeMayo 03-30-2021 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 3213534)
mergers are bad for all employee groups. as pilots we should not want to merge. not to mention how it effects gate/ground/office jobs. also bad for our customers as prices would rise

Seniority List Integrations are arduous at best. Been through them, don’t want to do them again.

Texasbound 03-30-2021 01:26 PM

Wait, I thought this was a jacket threat? What is all of this talk of mergers?

Mergers are expensive and only done when one of the companies is struggling and cheap. Furthermore, JB, Alaska, Spirt, Frontier, Allegiant, and Sun Country could merge and still not be as big as SWA. NK/F9 would not give enough benefit to outweigh the cost.

6ix9ineYearFlow 03-30-2021 02:36 PM

If two of ALPA carriers merge, how are ISLs typically handled? Is it by date of hire, relative seniority? Considerations for seat position? I don’t know what the precedent or guidance is, especially with mergers of a single fleet type.

Cyio 03-30-2021 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow (Post 3213572)
If two of ALPA carriers merge, how are ISLs typically handled? Is it by date of hire, relative seniority? Considerations for seat position? I don’t know what the precedent or guidance is, especially with mergers of a single fleet type.

I don’t think there is one master playbook for it.

CincoDeMayo 03-30-2021 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow (Post 3213572)
If two of ALPA carriers merge, how are ISLs typically handled? Is it by date of hire, relative seniority? Considerations for seat position? I don’t know what the precedent or guidance is, especially with mergers of a single fleet type.

ALPA merger policy..takes into account more factors than McCaskill-Bond of "Fair and Equitable"

As far as how they will be merged, that will go to an Arbitrator after the merger committees will inevitably fail to reach an agreement, but the popular method in recent SLIs seems to be Status Category integration.

Qotsaautopilot 03-30-2021 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3213430)
Go with the sweater, all around the most comfortable option!

Not approved uniform as far as I know. The sweater wearers seem to think otherwise


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